Alter TC Stock

[Gsjcky]

I have a 50 cal TC hawken rifle. I would like to shoot heavy conical bullets for elk hunting. I’m concerned about the crescent butt plate with the recoil generated with the conicals. Should I cut the stock down, making a flat butt plate, or would I be better off just trading the rifle for a renagade.?
Thx

 

[Johnny Too-Tall]

My 54 cal TC Hawken shoots maxi's behind 80 grains of 3f with not much recoil. The 54 cal Renegade pops me harder because mine has a higher comb than the Hawken does. .

 

[SDSmlf]

I have a 50 cal TC hawken rifle. I would like to shoot heavy conical bullets for elk hunting. I’m concerned about the crescent butt plate with the recoil generated with the conicals. Should I cut the stock down, making a flat butt plate, or would I be better off just trading the rifle for a renagade.?
Thx

Have you tried the heavy conical bullets in your gun? Have you settled on a bullet and powder charge? With the stock shouldered in that pocket between the bicep and shoulder I have no issues shooting 58 caliber (.562” dia) roundballs and 400 grain conicals (45 caliber) out of a TC Hawken as long as I don’t go crazy with the powder charge. It also helps to use the tallest practical sight setup to minimize ‘cheek slap’ if you find that an issue with your TC.

 

[deerstalkert]

mount the gun correctly and those crescent butt plates help tame recoil .
hook that thing around your bicep and into your arm pit. brace it across your chest and shoot that Elk.
i bought some No Excuses conical and if i remember right they were 520g or some such. that recoil i felt.
went back to PRB. the elk didn't know the difference .

 

[SDSmlf]

went back to PRB. the elk didn't know the difference .

You can’t use 50 caliber roundballs for elk in some areas.

 

[centershot]

That .50 Hawken will be a sloppy fit in a Renegade stock. The TC .50 caliber Hawken rifles were 15/16" across the flats, the Renegade is 1".

 

[Gsjcky]

In truth… I have not fired my Hawken at all yet. It’s at the gunsmith getting drilled & tapped for a skinner peep sight. I’ve been working on a PRB load for a 54 cal Renagade. Not sure how the Hawken shoots yet, but will find out soon.

 

[Ditt44]

Given the choice between a Hawken .50 and a Renegade .54, I would take the .54 and not look back. I have both.

In truth I would prefer to take my Cherokee if she shot a .54 with the .32s recoil

 

[Gsjcky]

And I agree… the 54 will be the hunting rifle. The Hawken, my back up & the range/target rifle.
Not sure of the proper technique for that he curved but plate. All of my experience has been with modern CF rifles & shotguns.

 

[Rebel bull]

I find the Renegade fits me better and the shotgun butt and heavier barrel (1" vs 15/16" ) mitigates the felt recoil better

 

[Reds]

Been hunting with a TC .54 Hawkens and a TC .54 Renegade shooting MaxiBalls for 40+ years and honestly never thought about recoil. All I can say is they knock the manure out of all big game you can hunt!!! Reds

 

[gunpa]

I've hunted with some 525 grain conicals in my 54 caliber New Englander and 100 grains of powder. The shotgun butt plate helps but you definitely feel it!

 

[Gsjcky]

Thank you for the input..: guess I’m going to find out!

 

[Indy Durtdigger]

Why not get a .50 cal barrel for the Renegade you already have rather than part with the Hawken for a second Renegade? For that matter you can order or find a barrel with a more suitable twist rate than the TC factory barrels had for conicals.

 

[Gsjcky]

A new barrel sounds like a good plan. Where would be a good place to start my search for a custom 50 cal barrel?

 

[Indy Durtdigger]

https://ricebarrels.com/product/tho...rop-in-barrels-1-20-1-24-1-48-square-riflied/

Cost about what a rifle does maybe a little less depending on they way things swing and don't offer as many options as they used too but still have two .50 conical rifle barrels. Top notch.

 

[Curman]

https://ricebarrels.com/product/tho...rop-in-barrels-1-20-1-24-1-48-square-riflied/

Cost about what a rifle does maybe a little less depending on they way things swing and don't offer as many options as they used too but still have two .50 conical rifle barrels. Top notch.

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[Curman]

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I agree with the Rice Barrel I have 3 of them can't beat them.Jason makes a drop in barrel for the Thompson and a super guy to do business with and the cost of the barrels won't break the bank either.

 

[Rebel bull]

Several green mountain long range hunter barrels on eBay as of yesterday