Pedersoli Tryon 50 cal

I recently purchased a 50 Calibre Tryon Rifle which presented very well. When I tried to look into the bore with a Thill bore light I couldn’t see anything. When I got it home and started to clean it the bore was filthy. The previous owner claimed he had cleaned it but patches came out dark brown seemingly from rust. I have now spent over an hour with a bronze brush and cleaning patches soaked in G96 and whilst I can see most of the bore and it’s not too bad every patch comes out brown. Is it possible that this is not rust but the residue of some cleaning fluid. Any one else experienced this

Congratulations on your purchase! I don't own a Pedersoli Tryon, but by all accounts they are outstanding rifles.

Regarding your question, I can tell you from personal experience that Bore Butter turns brown in time. A lot of people use it because of the advertising hype, and it works as a patch lube, but it will oxidize in a surprisingly short time and become the same color as rust.

If your bore is cleaning up well, that may be the situation with your rifle. I would suggest dismounting the barrel from the stock, and remove the nipple. Put the breech end in a small bucket with a funnel in the muzzle and pour really hot water through it until the water looks clear. Some Dawn dishwashing liquid will help dissolve the grease. Then put in a rod with a jag and patch and pump the hot water up and down the bore. You probably have Bore Butter in the patent breech and this will help flush it out. When you are satisfied the the bore and breech are clean, flush with clear hot water (without detergent), dry the barrel inside and out, and stand it muzzle down in a safe place to drain any water that may be left in the breech. The heat will help dry the water. Dry patch the bore again, and treat it with a surface protectant, some sort of grease or oil that won't evaporate. Wipe this out before loading and shooting.

We will probably get some comments about "flash rust" from the hot water treatment. This has been discussed many times. All I can say is that hot, soapy water works well for me. My hypothesis is that minerals or chemicals in the water contribute to the flash rust phenomenon. I use distilled water, which costs 89 cents per gallon at the local supermarket and find no problem with flash rust. A gallon will be plenty, more than enough to clean your barrel.

Good luck with it! Let us know how it turns out, and by all means submit some photos. We love gun pictures.

Best regards,

Notchy Bob

Have you shot it yet? If not I would see how it’s accuracy is and how the patches look after collecting them. My experience with my guns is there is always a little brown streaking on the patches when I swab the bore before shooting, after they have been cleaned and oiled well. I clean with soapy hot water, dry, and oil with straight Ballistol

Thanks Bob, great advise I will try it and let you know. I should be able to shoot it soon

I have a 54 cal. 1996 Tryon Target model and it's a great rifle! Hope you enjoy yours!

Ummm.......got any pics of that rifle??? You know, it might be time for some muzzle loader pics anyway!! But I'd like to see the Tryon.

A gun I bought from an estate had been used as a wall hanger and apparently had dried factory oil and dust in the barrel. Brush and solvent eventually got it cleared up. (funny enough for this thread, it was a Pedersoli Tryon).

I would clean and clean until I was 100% certain I could not get it any cleaner before I poured powder down it and attempted to put a ball down. Don't want to get a ball half way down it and have it stuck.

They you will be asking, "how do Ii get the ball out".

I would follow Notch Bob and not get in a hurry.

Need to know if it is loaded.

I clean basically as Notchy described. However, I use almost boiling water. The barrel gets too hot to hold bare handed, but any water on or in it evaporates quickly. You can see it go away fast.