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I have owned a ton or rifles with all the major lock makers. Honestly I haven't noticed a difference between any of them. They all make the gun go bang continently. The Kibler rifles have fast ignition but that is a combination of lock, touchhole alignment etc etc. The chambers deluxe siler rains sparks, and goes bang quickly, as does the L&R guns and the lone gun with a Davis lock. But these are all custom built rifles, where everything lines up like it should etc. . I can 100 percent tell the difference with a production gun lock everything is slower and less reliable. If I had to I'd take any of the custom built guns into battle or if it was life or death or the gun going off i wouldn't regret choosing any of them.
 
I have never had an L&R lock so I cannot speculate, But I have several Siler/Chambers, one Caywood, one Hadaway and two Kibler's and have never had a problem with any of them.

I would only try an L&R if that was the only thing that would fit as a replacement, I am pretty confident I could fix one if I needed to.
 
I had a chance to try a kibler build at the Club. Being the fact that all I ever had was my Lyman and T/C locks which mind you work and get the job done the Kibler was like a fine tuned watch. In the end though they all put the Pb down range.
 
I have nothing but praise for the L&R RPL lock I installed on one of my CVA mountain rifles. I’m learning the L&R Durs Egg flintlock that’s on a rifle I built last year, I’m hoping I like it as much as the RPL.
 
I have two L&R flintlocks one is a RPL for a Dixie Tennessee Long rifle and a Jacob Dickert Lock that have worked great for several years. All I did was to hone the internal parts with a small diamond hone and replaced the fly on the Dickert that seemed to be hanging up a bit. They are working great now and would not hesitate to get another if I needed a certain style that was not available in a higher quality brand.
 
What is the deal with the “upgrade” parts for older L&R locks? I am building up a NOS Sharon Trade Rifle with a 50 year old L&R percussion lock that is untouched.
What necessitates the upgrade?
 
What is the deal with the “upgrade” parts for older L&R locks? I am building up a NOS Sharon Trade Rifle with a 50 year old L&R percussion lock that is untouched.
What necessitates the upgrade?


I bought a pair of L&R flint locks a couple of years ago. One sear lever chipped but they sent a free spare to the UK within a week

Horrors later. They had become rusty from condensation so I left them for 20 mins in rust removal. Horrors the main springs were in bitts. WHY???!!!!! Sadly no reply from L&R. I did not like the price of new L&R springs or quality

I bought eBay a pair of old back action , like on my underlever , shotgun locks £14. I tried the main springs and they fitted perfectly. . I little bit more springy but powerful. Around 1880 I guess made in Birmingham One advantage of UK plenty of old cheap shotgun bits around. There’s a couple on eBay now around £21, 4 hours to go not bidding £30

I have bought a couple of 1820 Bess east India company locks on eBay, but few and far between , over £260 now I’ll go for them in future but constant eBay checking very good locks with masses of sparks
But make no mistake they are big locks big flints. Ha ha love them


I wish you well sunny today but heavy rain for rest of week
 

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L.C. Rice showed a lock he was getting ready for production at last years Tennessee show. It was smooth as silk, lightning fast and sparked like a flame thrower on steroids.... Impressive to say the least..
Hopefully he will have some at the show this year.
Now before anyone comments. I've been using flintlocks for 55 + years. I know a superior lock. This one had it in spades. and I've owned at one time most every production lock out their.
 
L.C. Rice showed a lock he was getting ready for production at last years Tennessee show. It was smooth as silk, lightning fast and sparked like a flame thrower on steroids.... Impressive to say the least..
Hopefully he will have some at the show this year.
Now before anyone comments. I've been using flintlocks for 55 + years. I know a superior lock. This one had it in spades. and I've owned at one time most every production lock out their.
I gotta say if LC and Chubby Jaws are making it. It is well designed and made.
 
I bought a pair of L&R flint locks a couple of years ago. One sear lever chipped but they sent a free spare to the UK within a week

Horrors later. They had become rusty from condensation so I left them for 20 mins in rust removal. Horrors the main springs were in bitts. WHY???!!!!! Sadly no reply from L&R. I did not like the price of new L&R springs or quality



I bought eBay a pair of old back action , like on my underlever , shotgun locks £14. I tried the main springs and they fitted perfectly. . I little bit more springy but powerful. Around 1880 I guess made in Birmingham One advantage of UK plenty of old cheap shotgun bits around. There’s a couple on eBay now around £21, 4 hours to go not bidding £30

I have bought a couple of 1820 Bess east India company locks on eBay, but few and far between , over £260 now I’ll go for them in future but constant eBay checking very good locks with masses of sparks
But make no mistake they are big locks big flints. Ha ha love them


I wish you well sunny today but heavy rain for rest of week
 
Years back , in desperate times, on a percussion I made a brass plate drilled and tapped little screws and fitted the components inside, off an old shotgun cartridge lock, then made a hammer ok no safety notch in tumbler but many European locks like the Feldstuter 1851 did not have a safety notch. I guess I could do a flintlock too but a lot more effort Works fine Maybe I’ll do one for a flintlock. Don’t think so !!!! Ha ha
 

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