50/50 Dawn and Water patch lube?

[bassncrap]

Recently reading about this.

How would one go about trying this?

Do the 50 50 mix and soak the patch?

Use a spray bottle and spray the patch before use?

Steadily learning here.

 

[garypl]

Recently reading about this.

How would one go about trying this?

Do the 50 50 mix and soak the patch?

Use a spray bottle and spray the patch before use?

Steadily learning here.

Spray bottle, wet thoroughly and squeeze out excess

 

[acavdragoon]

I put mine in a plastic squeeze bottle with a pop up cap. Put a dab on the patch and do a little rubbing to cover the patch. Works great!

 

[bassncrap]

Spray bottle, wet thoroughly and squeeze out excess

Ok not to sound too dumb here. But these are the steps prior to loading. Not spray...squeeze.. then save in a ziplock correct?

Trying to find a good patch lube to use. The only pre-lubed that arent a pain to use is Ox Yoke Wonderlube. Only issue is my .50 Renegade doesnt like it too much. Doesnt group worth a beans.

50gr 3F Swiss
.490 RB
.015 wonderlube

 

[Nav]

I find the wet patches let me shoot all afternoon without cleaning, and cleaning is easier at the end. I will never use dry again at the range. Only in the field.

 

[bassncrap]

Appreciate the help fellas!!

 

[COTNTOP]

Do not get patches too wet or they will have unburnt powder upon them.

 

[garypl]

Ok not to sound too dumb here. But these are the steps prior to loading. Not spray...squeeze.. then save in a ziplock correct?

Trying to find a good patch lube to use. The only pre-lubed that arent a pain to use is Ox Yoke Wonderlube. Only issue is my .50 Renegade doesnt like it too much. Doesnt group worth a beans.

50gr 3F Swiss
.490 RB
.015 wonderlube

Pour powder, spray patch material and squeeze any excess, load and shoot. I use a 1/8” felt wad with olive oil over the powder, then I use a very wet patch. Keeps barrel clean allows for many shots before I clean. I have shot 25-30 times and last shot loaded as easily as the first. This especially helps when I shoot .32 caliber. The felt wad let’s you use a very wet patch without wetting the powder.

 

[IanH]

Yeah...you apply the lube just before placing the patch and ball over the muzzle.

I suppose you could pre-lube the cut patches by putting them in a Ziplock with just enough water/Dawn (be sure and use Dawn brand) to dampen them, squeeze the whole bag to distribute the liquid and pour out excess, but you'll be having to seal it back up every time you load. If you could locate or repurpose a small, airtight container with flip-top lid it would be better.

 

[Togo]

I tried the dawn thing, just to slimy for my liking. I use simple green and water as my patch lube 50/50. I keep the little hand sanitizer containers with the snap open lids on them and use it for woods walk, they work great. My buddy gave me some vape oil containers with screw tops, wash them out and put the simple green mix in it, they work great for line matches

 

[Grenadier1758]

Considering that almost any mix of substances can be used as an acceptable patch lubricant, from spit to exotic blends that no one would want near their mouth, the consideration for me is to have a barely damp patch. I wipe the bore between shots, taking care to avoid pushing fouling into the flash channel. Barely damp avoids some of the slickness of some lubricants. If one is using one of the dry patch lubes, then wiping between shots is mandatory unless one can stand the 20 pages of helpful and less than helpful hints at how to remove a stuck jag and patch. I have a small wide mouthed bottle of solution. The patch is held over the mouth of the jar to be turned over to dampen the patch which is slid off the mouth once the bottle is upright.

For those that wipe the bore by using a very wet patch, then the patch is dampened to almost dripping. A spray bottle to spray the patch just before loading or putting the precut patches in a watertight bag is fine. Finding out what works best or you is all part of load development. The goal is to end with acceptable accuracy when the trigger is pulled.

 

[XVIIc Wheelock]

I have used the 50% Dawn/water for years...dampen patch. Never wiped bore between shots. I use an over the powder card so the powder does not get contaminated...just a thought.

 

[brushblind]

Might be good for target work (range) but not so much in the cold north woods during ML'd season. You need something like mink oil patches or REAL bullets lubed with tallow mix for your Renegade if your chasing deer up north! TC Maxi-Hunters work really well in my .54 Renegade. "Everything Black Power" has a video on YT using Dawn and water and he was impressed. But he's not hunting in very cold conditions, something to think about for range shooting in warmer climates though, for sure!

 

[sportster73hp]

In cold weather( below freezing) could you substitute rubbing alcohol instead of water? I use olive oil and it jells up in cold weather never freezes solid.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Soap is going to strip the seasoning right out of the barrel.
I use NO. 13 bore cleaner. I do shoot all day long without wiping. Just shooting.

 

[Freedom]

Napa soluble cutting oil/water is about as good as it gets. Oils as it cleans with every loading. Even if patches dry out, you still have the oil in them.

Detergent soaps leave your metal vulnerable to corrosion...and they work no better than the soluble oil.

 

[BillyC]

FYI if you have spotted lantern flies this 50/50 dish soap water when sprayed on them will kill them right away,

 

[Scota@4570]

I normally use a dry patch or ballistol and water.

Recently I added some glass cleaner concentrate to my ballistol and water. For the first time, I could skip wiping the bore. I did not get any fouling build up for ten shots. Being a target shooter I went back to wiping anyway. It is important to maintain bore condition for maximum accuracy. The patches was much cleaner.

I have used straight Murphy's oil soap in the past. The Dawn and water is demonstrated in a utube video. Both are very slippery and harder to work with than other options.



One thing I have observed that highly influences the ability not wipe between shots, bore finish. My super smooth hand lead lapped bores defiantly run cleaner than a rougher ones. When we have conflicting opinions on this it may have a lot to do with individual rifles.

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/why-we-dont-season-barrels.61745/

 

[bassncrap]

This is just for bench shooting.

 

[Ed C.]

I use a loading patch dampened with Olde Turkey Track (from Taylors). That is pushed down with a jag and patch dampened with a 6:1 water to ballistol mixture with a dash of dawn soap. That way every time the ramrod is retracted it adds a cleaning stroke to the barrel. Cleaning is not needed between shots but just on general principle I'll clean the barrel every 10 shots or so.