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Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
05-20-18 01:10 PM - Post#1685528    

    In response to mark/wi

Dubai unveiled a robot police officer last year about this time....The want them to make up 25% of their police force by 2030.


 
flehto 
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05-21-18 06:09 AM - Post#1685596    

    In response to Skychief

This discussion of shooting down drones is a very silly one.....although I think that drones should be licensed and a legal reason for flying them is presented to a judge or licensing board. This no doubt will occur if the number of drones becomes troublesome.

Shooting down drones is probably illegal and might interfere w/ law enforcement prodedures....it's a form of "vigilantism" which is an act of bypassing a legal procedure and depending on self help. Too many "self helpers" are breaking the law already and people rationalize their motives and actions and that's one of the reasons US prisons are crowded to over flowing.

If a drone is FREQUENTLY flown over private property , the property owner should make a civil complaint to the police and let them investigate.

I live in a rural area and have never seen a drone and don't think they're very popular as of now, but that might change and that's when strict licensing and enforocement is the solution. Also...drones w/ cameras should only be allowed for law enforcement, not for private use.....Fred





 
Rifleman1776 
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05-21-18 09:25 AM - Post#1685621    

    In response to flehto

Gotta disagree mightly with most of what you said. When licensing or regulation of almost any activity is mentioned, I respond negatively. Anything new is viewed with distrust and bureaucrats often try to regulate. We see laws in different area prohibiting such things as cell phones, yoga pants, etc. Yes, silly but these are messages that government will run rampant over our lives if we do not restrain those in office. It is not too far in the past where every car tire had to be registered with the Fed. Government. As were inflatable rafts and boats and much more. As for drones, this is a new area of law. IMHO, little to no regulation is needed by the government. Civil laws already are in place to be used in cases of abuse. e.g. spying on girls sunbathing, interfering with air plane traffic, etc. Prohibiting use of cameras would be incredibly sad. Drone photography is opening up a whole new world of possibilities for seeing things.

 
flehto 
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05-21-18 10:47 AM - Post#1685644    

    In response to Rifleman1776

Evidently you're anti gov't and don't like anyone telling you what to do or how to behave. That's OK in a perfect world, but from a reality standpoint nowadays, the "honor system" doesn't work.

W/o gov't rules and regulations mayhem will prevail.

Trusting people to fly drones w/ cameras w/o intruding into the privacy of individuals is naïve.....people are nosey and will violate an intrinsic freedom that we all cherish....privacy.

I too question gov't rules and regulations, but the gov'ts of the USA through out our history have engendered more freedom than in most countries and still does.

I certainly am not an adversary of our gov't....I want it to function well.....Fred

 
Loyalist Dave 
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05-21-18 12:39 PM - Post#1685656    

    In response to flehto

Pray tell why is the insurance adjuster who uses a drone to inspect roof damage after a storm, suddenly to be forbidden that, or why my friend who not only uses his very large drones to inspect things such as bridges over large bodies of water or under dangerous conditions for failures, as well as using drones for areal footage instead of the much more costly and dangerous use of a 'copter, when video taping various events, suddenly to be put out of business?

How is it that in a place where a helicopter or an airship can venture, let alone a spy satellite, suddenly intruded upon by the presence of a drone with a camera?

LD

 
azmntman 
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05-21-18 06:48 PM - Post#1685703    

    In response to Loyalist Dave

We, once again , have gotten

However....The drones inspecting roofs for the insurance adjuster just cost several insurance adjusters their jobs and the insured policy holders there Face to Face personal feeling of dealing with the CO. MOST insurance companies are not having their adjusters use the drones. They hire it out, so an adjuster scheduled to look at 6 roofs from a wind/hail storm on Tuesday just got replaced by an outside firm that never knocks or calls and flies that dang lil thing over the roof and takes 100 pics in 10 min and then repeats about 20 times.

Same for other industries. Technology IS REPLACING the human worker....rapidly. Soon you will be at a muzzle loader shoot and after all contestants have fired the last round a drone will zoom up and photo the targets and announce the winner

As for the girl watching and drug delivering stuff.....Geez its the year 2018 and there is no morality left to count on. I see one checking out the wife, daughter, daughter in-law or grand daughter and BOOM I'm off to court

 
spudnut 
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05-21-18 09:28 PM - Post#1685721    

    In response to azmntman

Hee Hee ,we have a summer nudist colony just west of where I live,wonder how they feel about them,bet a pilot would get in lots of trouble flying it there!

 
Colorado Clyde 
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05-22-18 08:15 AM - Post#1685754    

    In response to Loyalist Dave



I have a simple solution that should be amenable and agreeable to everyone.

Every drone should be fitted with an integral transponder That broadcasts the owners ID.
This would be like having caller ID, but for drones. An app to access the info could be on you phone or web accessible..

  • Quote:
How is it that in a place where a helicopter or an airship can venture, let alone a spy satellite, suddenly intruded upon by the presence of a drone with a camera?



The major difference is access and availability.


 
Stumpkiller 
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05-22-18 09:54 AM - Post#1685771    

    In response to Loyalist Dave

  • Loyalist Dave Said:
Pray tell why is the insurance adjuster who uses a drone to inspect roof damage after a storm, suddenly to be forbidden that . . .



I imagine the insurance adjuster has the homeowner's permission. That would be the difference.

If the insurance adjuster didn't have permission and seemed preoccupied with the section of eves just outside the homeowner's daughter's bedroom window . . . not so much.
"Don't take life too serious - it ain't nohow permanent."


 
azmntman 
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azmntman
05-22-18 11:06 PM - Post#1685898    

    In response to Stumpkiller



 
Rifleman1776 
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05-23-18 09:59 AM - Post#1685970    

    In response to flehto

  • flehto Said:
Evidently you're anti gov't and don't like anyone telling you what to do or how to behave. That's OK in a perfect world, but from a reality standpoint nowadays, the "honor system" doesn't work.

W/o gov't rules and regulations mayhem will prevail.

Trusting people to fly drones w/ cameras w/o intruding into the privacy of individuals is naïve.....people are nosey and will violate an intrinsic freedom that we all cherish....privacy.

I too question gov't rules and regulations, but the gov'ts of the USA through out our history have engendered more freedom than in most countries and still does.

I certainly am not an adversary of our gov't....I want it to function well.....Fred




Fred, I am not "anti" all regulation, just overboard interference in our private lives. That said, I have been called a libertarian more than once. No true. I am a hard-case Constitutionalist. Barry Goldwater was my hero. In fact, I sit on a planning board that makes regulations. After 2 1/2 years of work on a new set of building regs. I argued, and was successful in getting passed what, I believe, will protect the general public but not interfere with personal initiatives.
Personal use of drones will grow exponentially, as will the photo uses and before long the angst associated with this new device will simply go away. BTW, I want one. I think the photo possibilities are very exciting.

 
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