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Login Name Post: Who makes Best Flintlock?        (Topic#255968)
limbhangers 
Pilgrim
Posts: 2
03-16-11 09:08 PM - Post#972624    


I know alot of you make your own but if you had to go and buy one from a builder who would you choose? Please submit your pics too!

 
Swampy 
Cannon
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Swampy
03-16-11 10:22 PM - Post#972655    

    In response to limbhangers

There are a lot of very good builders that are members here. I don't think it would be very nice to start throwing names around to this question in open forum. I'm sure some would feel slighted not being mentioned.


 
Zonie 
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Zonie
03-16-11 11:21 PM - Post#972671    

    In response to limbhangers

Welcome to the forum.

Perhaps rather than asking about good builders, giving a description of the style of gun your thinking of and what you intend to do with it would be a better approach?

As you posted this topic in the hunting section I assume you are wanting the gun for hunting?

If I guessed right, what game are you after? The recommendation for deer, hog, elk, squirrels are probably all going to be different (although the .54's will take deer, hogs and elk). A few even say they have taken squirrel with one although I think they were lucky to end up with more than a hunk of fur and 4 feet.

Do you want to have a Percussion style gun or Flintlock?
Are you on a tight budget or is the sky the limit?

Lots of questions, I know but they will help us help you.
Just Jim...



 
Rich Pierce 
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03-17-11 04:08 PM - Post#972913    

    In response to Zonie

+1 with Zonie. What sort of gun, what style, how fancy, what price?

For example, for Lehigh rifles there is a short list of 8-10 makers everyone would agree are way up there. It would be a different list for English styled flintlock fowling pieces, or S. Hawken rifles, or Bedford County rifles, or Soddy Daisy rifles, etc.

 
tg 
Cannon
Posts: 10776
03-17-11 04:46 PM - Post#972931    

    In response to limbhangers

I would try to get Haines or Beck to build one if I could, but I think they are retired.

 
Zonie 
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Zonie
03-17-11 05:54 PM - Post#972970    

    In response to tg

Those two can't hold a candle to Figthorn IMO. He's retired too.
Just Jim...



 
tg 
Cannon
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03-17-11 06:01 PM - Post#972974    

    In response to Zonie

Who makes the best candleholders?

limbhangers....just funnin' with you, the guys above have some good questions that will help steer you in the right direction, I am certain you will get some PM's suggesting resident builders as well.

 
flintlock62 
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flintlock62
03-17-11 06:23 PM - Post#972990    

    In response to limbhangers

  • limbhangers Said:
I know alot of you make your own but if you had to go and buy one from a builder who would you choose? Please submit your pics too!



Sorry I can't provide pic's. Tip Curtis makes some nice one's.

 
Kennyc 
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Kennyc
03-17-11 06:50 PM - Post#973013    

    In response to flintlock62

Colinal Williamsburg gun shop .
But what do I know????


 
Stumpkiller 
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Stumpkiller
03-17-11 09:25 PM - Post#973072    

    In response to Kennyc

How many numbers ahead of the comma do you want to spend?

Brad Emig?
"Don't take life too serious - it ain't nohow permanent."


 
m-g willy 
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03-17-11 09:53 PM - Post#973089    

    In response to Stumpkiller

  • Stumpkiller Said:
How many numbers ahead of the comma do you want to spend?

Brad Emig?




I was eye-balling this thread just to see what everyone would answer. Then you had to hit the "how many numbers ahead of the comma" and shot it down for me!
I tell ya it's hard being blessed with all these good looks and smarts and NO MONEY!
Oh yeah ,, I'm pretty humble too!

 
ronrryan 
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ronrryan
03-17-11 10:11 PM - Post#973095    

    In response to m-g willy

Limbhangers, you have posed a virtually impossible question. There are a couple of things you should do. One is haunt this site and the "contemporary makers" site and the american longrifle site, and these will lead you to others. There are hundreds of builders. You could well spend upwards of twenty thousand dollars for a completely handcrafted work of art, complete as to every part including the barrel being made "from scratch". Or minimalist "poor boy" at a thousand or so. The other thing to do is to go to the Dixon's gunmakers fair in late July in Pennsylvania, or failing that to a regional meeting of the CLA. This will start your education. Good luck and good smoke, God Bless, Ron in FL

Edited by ronrryan on 03-17-11 10:13 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
KanawhaRanger 
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03-18-11 08:43 AM - Post#973175    

    In response to Stumpkiller

  • Stumpkiller Said:
How many numbers ahead of the comma do you want to spend?

Brad Emig?




And how old are you? If not you, maybe your heirs will be able to enjoy it.


 
Mike Brooks 
Cannon
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03-18-11 08:51 AM - Post#973182    

    In response to limbhangers

  • limbhangers Said:
I know alot of you make your own but if you had to go and buy one from a builder who would you choose? Please submit your pics too!


I'll answer your question. I'd go to Eric Kettenburg and tell him to build anything he wants to. I'd go to allen Martin for a Lehigh. I'd go to Mark Silver for an english folwing gun. I'd go to H. House for a Woodbury gun.
These are my favorite guys, others would probably choose different makers.

 
Rich Pierce 
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03-18-11 10:47 AM - Post#973218    

    In response to Mike Brooks

Those guys are my choices as well for those types of guns. I'd pick Jim Kibler for the finest Bivins-style work, Ian Pratt for new school Southern mountain rifles or anything else, Mark Wheland can do almost anything, Bill Shipman for a Pennsylvania rifle of any kind done in the finest manner, Steve Davis for anything Southern, and there are up and comers who should be considered, Mitch "Tallbear" and Ed Wenger come to mind. Old guys not as famous: Louie Parker will blow your mind with his work, Taylor Sapergia makes as fine a Hawken as you'll ever see but can also do a Lehigh or anything else that interests him, Tom Caster does as nice a Beck as anyone out there. In a type G trade gun, Mike here, Jack Brooks, or Clay Smith are top notch. For a Hudson Valley fowler or any early fowler, Ken Gahagan and Mike Brooks. If you like believable Southern New School, aged well, think Chuck Edwards. Go to the Contemporary Makers Blogspot to see examples http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/. Do the search and just put in "rifle". Don't drool on the keyboard. There are more excellent makers now than ever before.

 
tg 
Cannon
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03-18-11 11:00 AM - Post#973228    

    In response to Mike Brooks

Kettenberg is one that few if any would shy away from or question his choices if they had the resources to approach him, he is one of a handfull that I would not bother to research/layout a "plan" for a gun before having him build it, he is also generous in sharing his knowledge of these guns, he used to stop in here now and then but likley has little time for all the things he does so some "choosing" probably has to be done which is the case for many of us from time to time.

 
Pletch 
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03-18-11 11:13 AM - Post#973233    

    In response to Mike Brooks

  • Mike Brooks Said:

I'll answer your question. I'd go to Eric Kettenburg and tell him to build anything he wants to. I'd go to allen Martin for a Lehigh. I'd go to Mark Silver for an english folwing gun. I'd go to H. House for a Woodbury gun.
These are my favorite guys, others would probably choose different makers.



To the names Mike mentioned I'd add Bill Shipman for Lancaster guns. I also like what Mike said about Eric -- "tell him to build anything he wants to". Don't tie the maker down; give these fellows latitude to do what they do best.

Regards,
Pletch


 
ebiggs 
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ebiggs
03-18-11 04:44 PM - Post#973343    

    In response to Pletch

This brings up a question. Do you have to like the builder you select or is that not important?


 
Rich Pierce 
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03-18-11 05:02 PM - Post#973354    

    In response to ebiggs

Liking their work is important! With most folks, our thinking and our emotions are closely linked. If we find a gal to be friendly, sweet, trustworthy and caring, she may appear to be prettier than if she's haughty, mean-spirited, sneaky, and self-centered. Same is true in business sometimes.

 
40 Flint 
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40 Flint
03-18-11 05:10 PM - Post#973358    

    In response to Rich Pierce

Ahhh, wise man, Mr Pierce speak with straight tongue!

 
Zonie 
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Zonie
03-18-11 05:23 PM - Post#973364    

    In response to 40 Flint

Dog gonnet! I just knew someone was going to get his feelers hurt when I first saw this Topic.
Nobody mentioned Ole' Zonie!

Just kidding. Ole' Zonie doesn't build guns for anyone but himself.
Just Jim...



 
KanawhaRanger 
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Posts: 3370
03-18-11 07:51 PM - Post#973399    

    In response to Zonie

Well, I've seen some pictures of your guns and I think you do a fine job. You do a neater job than me for sure. If I warn't so poor and tight that I had to build my own I'd be proud to have you build me one.



 
CrackStock 
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03-18-11 08:52 PM - Post#973426    

    In response to limbhangers

Not mentioned is Walter Mabry of Mississippi. He is more often known for horns, but his rifles are very good. I had seen his work for some time and liked it. I have now seen more and like it even better.

CS

 
colmoultrie 
50 Cal.
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03-18-11 09:52 PM - Post#973441    

    In response to Mike Brooks

I won't say who's "best," but I went to Allen Martin for a Bucks County rifle, and I've never regretted it.

Another name I will throw out there for you to drool over is Keith Casteel. He builds very ornate guns that are not everyone's taste (or just as likely, budget). I don't say he's the best, but he's worth a look, even if, like me, you're never going to buy one.

You really need to go to Dixon's in Kempton, PA, on the last weekend in July, find a builder or gun you like, and strike a deal. You will, however, have to be patient; I did have to wait five years. Now I did make the mistake of telling Allen not to hurry - never tell a builder that - but you have to figure that most well-known and respected builders have a waiting list.

Ask known builders on here like Mike Brooks, Roy Stroh, or Fred Lehto, or Matt and Toni Avance, or Matt Denison. The last two are probably shorter waiting lists, because from what I hear they simply build guns faster, but all have a line of customers waiting.



 
Lonegun1894 
54 Cal.
Posts: 1520
03-18-11 10:58 PM - Post#973471    

    In response to colmoultrie

I will have to throw in Matt and Toni Avance as that is who built mine, and I couldn't be happier. I cant say "best" as I dont have anything else except production guns to compare it to, but I'm happy with their work. In fact, will be ordering a .54 rifle and a .62 smoothy from them when funds allow. Having said that, all the builders listed above make guns I'd be proud to own. Just find one you like, tell them the basics of what you want, and turn them loose to do their artwork without too many restrictions. I figure if or when I get the skills to do it myself, I will nitpick myself apart. Til then, they're the ones who know what they're doing.

Edited by Lonegun1894 on 03-18-11 11:05 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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