!SXS flintlock 19 (20) gauge!

[BlackNet]

This came in the mail today.

Bore diameter: .624" (20 gauge is .615, 19 gauge is .626)

OAL: 44 3/4"
Barrel length: 28"
Flint size: 3/4"
Breech plug: Hooked and patten 15/16" deep

This is the underbelly of the beast.

Locks:

Pan needs some work.

Barrel needs a bit of cleanup on the side. There is a good amount of grease on everything for packing/storage/shipping.

Mind you this is all before cleanup so it should look much better once that is done.


This is lube of some form and it will clean up nicely.

Barrel inspection.

Wedge key and pipe, note it is hand made.

Last up proof marks on the barrels.

There you have it. SXS flintlock from Middlesex Trading village in charlestown, New Hampshire. I think overall quality is not bad, I have seen much much worse and I was somewhat expecting finish to be slightly higher but I can do that myself. It is a field grade firearm and to be used there. It is not a closet/safe queen by no means

Here is a short video I made with my iphone for the locks.
Lock testing

 

[greggholmes]

actually it looks pretty good. i was looking at Middlesex also. Im looking at the US Springfield Model 1816 Musket.

 

[Lorne Johnson]

Thanks for the extensive photos!

Enjoy.

 

[sb 54 cal.]

Very nice always wanted to try a flintlock double barrel. :hatsoff:

 

[BlackNet]

Some updates.


:Barrel dimentsions:

ID of Bore: L .624, R .623

:ID:
Muzzle end: L .746, LW .061; R .738, RW .0565
1st ramrod: L .746, LW .061; R .740, RW .0585
2nd ramrod: L .750, LW .063; R .753, RW .065
3rd ramrod: L .820, LW .098; R .816, RW .0965
Breech end: L .891, LW .1335; R .886, RW .1015
Breech plug: L .910, LW ..323; R .910, RW .323

L = Left barrel OD.
R = Right barrel OD.
LW = Left barrel wall thickness.
RW = Right barrel wall thickness.

Instead of buying some fancy gauge to do wall thickness I did (Bore ID diameter - OD diameter) / 2 = wall thickness. This is not perfect exact science by no means but good inspection shows the barrel ID is not contoured like a shotgun should be.

Breech plug I measured the distance of a rod through the touch hole.

I was informed the date code on the barrel is *NOT* the manufacture date but the acceptance stamp of the shop to make that type of firearm and that the real date of production of the barrels was April 2013 (last month)

 

[Billnpatti]

Not a bad looking gun but I have always had reservations about guns made in India. :hmm: My feelings have been that they are okay as wall hangers or for re-enactment but not good as shooters. :idunno: Also, when you say the barrels are not properly contoured on the inside, what exactly do you mean. Do the bores simply need cleaning and polishing or is more serious than that? Have you shot it yet to see what kind of pattern you get? Post some photos or, even better yet, post a video of the gun in action and the patterns that you are getting. :hatsoff:

 

[buzz]

Always wanted one but just cant shake india guns history of what they are
Sure looking for some reports on how if services andshoots vids or pics

 

[Robby]

Ed, A lot has been said about all the negatives associated with these India guns. I hope it works out for you!! For the money, its not a bad looking gun. A few hours with some files, emery, sandpaper and a few chemicals and it would be a very nice looking gun. Again, I hope it works out for you. :hatsoff:
Robby

 

[BlackNet]

http://youtu.be/bngQV0Uu7Jc

Took this today at the range, it's in segments and quite good to watch, 4 minutes long.

As for the negative aspects I knew that going into the order and I wanted to see something hand made and document what I have and all of that.

 

[Parzifal]

She looks great!

Well done!

 

[mccoy]

Great post! Are the steel parts chromed or just polished?

 

[19 16 6]

Yes I know this is an old thread but I have just found it & I am very interested in knowing more.
What is the finish on the metal ?
How is the thing holding up ?
Is it proofed ?
how good are those locks working out ?
Does anyone else have one & what information can you add ?
I know it is India made, but what alternative is there for getting a 16 or 20 gauge double flintlock shotgun ?
Who in USA would build one of a better quality & maybe with some choke ?
A lot of questions I know, but I so desire this type of arm.
O.

 

[19 16 6]

Genuine antiques are in the range of $8,000 for average & up to 20,000 for real good.
That I do not need. I want a shooter.
O.