I'm the proud new owner of this nice-looking cape gun in .54-12. A member here was kind enough to offer it to me and will be in my hands shortly and yes I will shoot it.
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Love those wood or horn trigger guards seen on European guns.
The rifle side has a forward set trigger, my only experience with those is on pistols.
I do intend to hunt with it also but I'd place a bet that at its age it has already killed some critters.
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I'm looking forward to seeing any of the data engraved on it especially a name. I reckon it's probably German.
As of now, this is the only thing I can offer after I receive it I'll do a more in-depth.
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Oh great , well fantastic, looks like Swiss or German as it seems to have a hump back lock , ( that’s like the close up of my hump back lock on my Swiss Feldstuter , )
I have two percussion cape rifles , but I cannot fire them in uk, no police permit , long story .
A rusty one is being done up , 12bore/577 holts auction. Came with a broken stock £160 and a few barrel dents
The one with the patch box comes in at 13 lbs. By Reilly dated 1853 , Reilly is well documented on google , good bores
a needed cleaning up .6 two grove and around 10 bore by Rielly
Yes what history do they have . So nice to show it. , lovely I wish you well from London
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Neuwied is a town in the north of the German state of Rhineland-Palatinate, capital of the District of Neuwied. Neuwied lies on the east bank of the Rhine, 8 miles northwest of Koblenz, on the railway from Frankfurt am Main to Cologne.
Looks like my guess was right.
Looks like my guess was right.
Thats a very nice double rifle Andy !!
Those of us who enjoy shooting original firearms are looking forward to more photos, keep us posted on how it shoots.
Andy you may be already be experienced shooting original percussion firearms, if so disregard the following safety recommendation or possibly this info will help another forum member who wants to enjoy shooting firearms with actual living history.
As a retired antique arms gunsmith, I've enjoyed decades of hunting & competing with mostly original flint & percussion firearms.
I always replace the nipples on any original percussion firearm I intend to shoot & have recommended the same to my former clients after determining condition of the firearm is safe to shoot with an 'appropriate powder charge'.
The nipples on most early European percussion firearms I've restored to shooting condition often have large diameter vent bases that have become larger due to corrosion.
~Consequences of unsafe nipples I've observed;
If a nipple's vent has been overly-enlarged due to corrosion, when fired can allow enough pressure to blow the hammer back & shear it off of the tumbler.
I personally preferred Treso brand nipples because of their high quality standards, small vent bases that provides hotter ignition & wide assortment of sizes that I've been able to easily adapt to any original firearm with nothing more than using a drill & tap to obtain a proper fit.
Having been retired for years, I immagine today there are also other nipple supplier options to consider..
Thanks for sharing photos of your neat double rifle !
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Those of us who enjoy shooting original firearms are looking forward to more photos, keep us posted on how it shoots.
Andy you may be already be experienced shooting original percussion firearms, if so disregard the following safety recommendation or possibly this info will help another forum member who wants to enjoy shooting firearms with actual living history.
As a retired antique arms gunsmith, I've enjoyed decades of hunting & competing with mostly original flint & percussion firearms.
I always replace the nipples on any original percussion firearm I intend to shoot & have recommended the same to my former clients after determining condition of the firearm is safe to shoot with an 'appropriate powder charge'.
The nipples on most early European percussion firearms I've restored to shooting condition often have large diameter vent bases that have become larger due to corrosion.
~Consequences of unsafe nipples I've observed;
If a nipple's vent has been overly-enlarged due to corrosion, when fired can allow enough pressure to blow the hammer back & shear it off of the tumbler.
I personally preferred Treso brand nipples because of their high quality standards, small vent bases that provides hotter ignition & wide assortment of sizes that I've been able to easily adapt to any original firearm with nothing more than using a drill & tap to obtain a proper fit.
Having been retired for years, I immagine today there are also other nipple supplier options to consider..
Thanks for sharing photos of your neat double rifle !
Relic shooter
TFoley, we really appreciate your input on European makers !!!!
Thank you sir, and would not even consider firing this gun until the nipples have been replaced, it's one of the first things I do with an original gun after I see if it's loaded....
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Very nice score!!! Congrats! It's cape gun month for us both! .58/24
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I am quite taken by the German hammer shape you cape rifle is very nice. . So much so I bid on this ml German rifle “ “ SELLIER & CO., LEIPZIG, Holts March auction but alas I lost Should have put a higher bid in, even so it was higher than valuation, totally gutted. I had just paid out £1200 for my catameran moorings so feeling a bit broke , Yes as are mr Foley said the style is typically German but in the 1860s borders changed a good bit between Germany and Switzerland , what gutted me the most was that Sellier are still manufacturing guns , no good crying always another auction
You can see the German style hammers below. Realy taken by them
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Judging by your past posts I kinda thought you were pretty savvy in that dept.Thank you sir, and would not even consider firing this gun until the nipples have been replaced, it's one of the first things I do with an original gun after I see if it's loaded....
The Rifle side trigger on the one I have has a set trigger but it's a forward type single..
Thats a beauty, unusual trigger setup !!
A few years back I owned a Jaeger by Christoph Funck, maybe related?
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For me this is a fantastic string , love cape rifles
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That is so nice. It seems the Swiss and Germans we more into set triggers than the British . I wonder why that is. However both of theses countries are very much into high quality products even today.
