I figure I've reached the half way point with my TOW Bivins kit. I've learned alot, by far the most important thing I've learned is that I should have gone to dental school back in the 70's. I seem to have a natural talent for mixing up glue and shavings and then filling in cavities with it. I also learned that the next build( yes I'm going to do another) will have brass furniture. If I ever learn how to post photos I doubt that I'll post photos of this rifle when it's done. She will become the homely girl that gets fondled under the bleachers than ignored in the hallway when your with your buddies. Any suggestions on patterns for carving, allot of info out there on how to carve but how do guys come up with those beautiful designs. on paper first and then transfered with carbon paper? Don't tell me it's free hand right to the wood. odis