Hudson Bay Dag?

[gizamo]

Found this in a gunshop for the whoppin sum of $60 American... :thumbsup:

Anyrate, it is unmarked and about 15 inches in length. Would this be considered a version of a HB Dag?

 

Don't know about Hudson Bay, but it appears to be a Pakistani knife. They are inexpensive and come in a variety of "styles".
http://www.unitedcutlery.com/ProductDetail.aspx?itemno=UC2675&cat=UC

 

[gizamo]

Sorry, but the link you posted is a POS compared to the knife I have in hand... :grin:

How'd you ever make that leap.... :yakyak:

Mine must be at least a Italian Clone.... :shocked2:

 

[RickD]

Age the shiney sheath and use the knife and dont worry what others think..Its your knife

 

Sorry, but the link you posted is a POS compared to the knife I have in hand... :grin:

How'd you ever make that leap.... :yakyak:

Uh, because it is a $40 POS? :haha:

http://www.atlantacutlery.com/p-833-beaver-tail-dag.aspx

 

[gizamo]

Dang Jack...

Couldn't you of at least let me live the dream for one night... You have to admit that it's on sale at that price, marked down from $54.95...:grin:

 

[gizamo]

OK,

Decided to age it...so mustard baths, vinegar, and cold blue are in it's future. I like the form. Anyone else have some HB dags they could post a pic of?

 

[RickD]

Try smearing mustard on the blade..Leave it on for a while to see what it does

 

[Troy Allen Christianson]

Does it hold an edge? Does it do the job of a knife? Then you got a nice knife. I have a few blades made by Windlass Steel. They are out of India. They work alright for what I paid for them and then some.

 

[pichou]

On the trade knife repro scale of 1 to 10, 1 being a Jas Townsend trade knife, and 10 being one of mine ( :yakyak: ), yours is about a 6. It's the right idea, but the details are a bit off.

It would be a lot better without the notches. Mix iron filings in with that mustard, and do the handle too, after you sand the finish off. Might take a nice uneven stain from that.

I noticed nobody said anything about the cost of shipping from Atlanta Cutlery, BTW. :blah:

 

[gizamo]

Pichou,

The lash notches were interesting to me. Do you have any record of a Western era or Eastern knife that was set up to be used as a spear point?

 

[LaBonte]

Pichou,

The lash notches were interesting to me. Do you have any record of a Western era or Eastern knife that was set up to be used as a spear point?

Both the early Bayonet style and the later HBC and American Dag style blades both had the lash notches and were sold both as completed knives as well as blades for any uses one so chose. On the finished knives the notches were usually under the forward part of the handle and rivets were driven through to hold the handle to the blade. There are several period examples of spears made using these type trade blades. See the "Fur Trade Cutlery Sketchbook" for examples of the different style "dag" blades and finished knives.

The handle on the knife that started this thread is not one of the commercial styles, but rather would reflect a hand made one i.e. handle added after the fact.

 

[gizamo]

LaBonte,

Thank you for the informative post. It's why I love this place. Ask a question and someone will give you more then you expected as an answer. Awesome....

I started the process of takin' of the shine... and the blade holds a keen edge. I'm quite satisfied with this Dag... :wink:

Think I'll take the advise given and redo the wood finish next...then onto the sheath!

 

[RickD]

The blade is looking tons better now..

 

[pichou]

The Fur Trade Cutlery Sketch Book is worth every penny. Anybody interested in this kind of stuff will get a lot out of it.

This type blade also shows up in gunstock war clubs.

 

[LaBonte]

This type blade also shows up in gunstock war clubs.

yep...........

Osage circa late 1830-40s: - overall length is 2.5" - that's a BIG blade

Sioux - circa 1860's

 

[Shine]

Giz stick it in the ground for a week or so. or bury it under some wet leaves, Or heat the blade a little and dunk it in clorox you can watch it rust. :shocked2: apply motor oil to stop the rusting.

 

[torn moc]

Nice Knife Giz ! Heres mine...I age the blade by cutting garden tomatoes!

This one is the Hudson Bay sold by Crazy Crow a few years ago for $20