Patented flintlock-revolver

Just when I thought I've seen them all I ran into this little gem.

E. H. COLLIER, Nov. 24, 1818 patented flintlock-revolver, 5-shot, gas-sealed, hand-revolved. According to Sutherland's book Sam Colt bought one in London, and he developed out of this model the single action system = by cocking the hammer the cylinder turns.

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Flintlock revolver



Anyone familiar with these?

You sure it isn't some tricked out mini-gun right Glenn? :rotf: Nice work what ever /whoever made it. :grin: Fred :hatsoff:

Collier went to England and made some more of them, but they really weren't successful.

Do you have more information about this pistol? I'd be interested in learning how it was set up to keep the rest of the loads from blowing.

I seem to recall that the priming mechanism was in the frizzen, but don't remember how it worked. Not well enough to make the guns big sellers in any case. That had to wait for the invention of the percussion cap and Sam Colt's genius to come along.

I think Colt tried the plate in front of the cylinder with his early guns and then did away with it. Good way to blow things up if there was a chain fire. Looks like it would need to be primed between shots.

Ya if you'll go back to [url] http://www.muzzleloadingforum....php?tid/211957/post/469829/hl//fromsearch/1/[/url] dont think that will work but ck my post on first page about COLTS WE WISH WE HAD 10 SHOT PATTERSON ect all the test ones had that front shield and it has a chain fireing wonder..saw a pic of a non Colt 10 shot 50 cal bet that was a real scream. :rotf: Fred :hatsoff: Well that did work lets ry this it shows better the shield. [url] http://www.muzzleloadingforum....php?tid/211961/post/469833/hl//fromsearch/1/[/url] .

This is the first time I've seen it said that Colt actually bought one of them. It stands to reason that he probably was aware of the Collier. It was a pretty good design and several hundred were produced and mainly sold/used in remote parts of the Empire. It came just before the percussion era really took hold ( 1818) and I've heard that some Colliers were actually converted to percussion well before Colt came out with the paterson.

Pre-production patersons did have the plate in front of the chambers and combined with enclosed nipples that formed a raceway for backblast, probably would have made excellent grenades. Colt did away with both of these features before he put the Patersons into production.

The book "Guns Of The Old West" by Chapel show not only a revolving snaphaunce but a revolving matchlock as well, now there's an interesting piece! :thumbsup:

"English Pistols and Rifles" by J. N. George has a chapter on the early English revolvers, including the snaphaunce dated crica 1650, as well as info on the Colliers and others..