jtkerk
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They are and are superb fine quality very accurate guns
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Kibler side effect?
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Just my opinion but I doubt very few on this forum understand the complexity of programming a multi head CNC machine to do what Jim has done. Its not what the machines are capable of. Its Jim's persistent ability to figure out the complexity of the programming to get all the tolerances correct. Before I retired our shop had just started using CNC machines. Just designing the tooling to hold the stocks is impressive to say the least and then programming it all...WOW is all I can say..
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Your input and knowledge is needed too much here.
Jim doesn’t make Brown Besses.
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Interesting read... Mr. Kibler has certainly filled a need and satisfied many folks' ability to obtain a rifle that they are certainly proud of. That's been great for the traditional muzzleloading pursuit. The merits of their methods have been debated pro and con, but can't detract from the fact that a lot of quality rifles are in the hands of happy owners! I may have purchased a Kibler kit, but they don't offer a rifle is a style that I'm interested in, just my personal preference. All I can do is add to the wish list: "I wish there was a Kibler Jaeger kit!"
I can tell you first hand the great quality of a Pedersorry, yeah i will never buy another one. There is certainly a place for Kibler's rifles, they are top of the line
Jim, also the "Short Arbor" issues that have been discussed time and time over on here. One would think that it might have been addressed long ago...just my thoughts....
In the absence of Kibler Products think of the choices and issues with the P-soli,s we would be stuck with.
Snooterpup
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Pedersoli makes a decent percussion rifle. There is a place for most of their flintlocks though. That would be the store’s rack. Leave them there.
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I’ve put together other kits and 4 Kiblers. There is NO comparison.
The Woodsrunner is way ahead of the Colonial which is way way ahead of anything else. As far as ease of assembly.
The Woodsrunner is way ahead of the Colonial which is way way ahead of anything else. As far as ease of assembly.
Yes! I agree, I've put together other kits over the years and none compare in the ease of putting one of Jim's kits together, along with their authenticity! They make the other manufacturers look a little weak!
sportster73hp
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YET !
It will have Kibler not Tower on the lock.
Yeeeehaw!!!
As Dale Carnegie said Any fool can criticize condemn and complain and most fools do. I learned in the 3rd grade that you can't build yourself up by putting others down.
Well said, there will always be those who will criticize the golden goose for not producing a higher grade of gold. Invest in education, historical knowledge, facility, equipment, hours upon hours of trial and error, material, finding employees with skillset, compensation, general aggravation from IRS and other distractions before criticizing someone who did their own homework & succeeded.
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Mr Kibler ignore the haters. Ive only done three kits. Two from traditions my third and last build the southern mountain rifle in .32. It went together and looks amazing. Saving for my next one. Mostly waiting see what the trade rifle unless I break down and get the woodsrunner.
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Get the Woods Runner ,never wish you had cause you would !/Ed
Maybe people just want what they want. And they don’t want the same thing as everybody else. Jim Kibler makes really nice stuff. Excellent quality good build. But sometimes it’s not what you want. Of course that upsets people who expect you to just take what you’re given. .
