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left hand vrs right hand
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She’s beautiful sir……very nice
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No!!!
Only time I would not shoot a righty is a side hammer mule ear. I think those caps sprays would get you with the face on the side and I would not put a deflector on it for looks purposes. Top side percussion or flintlock no issues what so ever.
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This lefty has shot right hand muzzleloaders since the 1950s. Never had any problem with cap spray or anything else.
Safety glasses are your friend.
Safety glasses are your friend.
After reading 2 + pgs of posts here is my nickel as 2 cents are now about worthless. I am LH'd modern RH firearms in the bolt action are a pain, but i knew from jump street i got only one shot. I truely love a LH ML, mostly as i don't have to deal with the patch-box ugly parts covering the stock. The cheek piece of a RH ML is just strange looking n of no use shooting it as a LH person. Now i have several RH ML's n that is what they are just butt ugly to a lefty. Can i shoot one yes i can, its like being dressed funny n made to crawl backwards. Once i have finished as in getting it in a full shooting state i will use my Under-Hammer for hunting. It has no cheek piece nor patch-box nor any flying spray up around my face. I can wear a jersy glove n long sleeves if need be. Then i will build myself a LH flintlock, i have a Rh'd one that has no cheek piece nor patch-box & its accurate. I have found no problem using it with any sparks or gas blowing out. I would do ok with one of Kibler's Woodrunners if there were no patch-box n cheek piece on them.
In some respects, it almost seems as if percussion revolvers are designed for a left-handed shooter. All the loading functions are done with the revolver in the left hand and when done, the revolver is transferred to the right hand. Not a major inconvenience to be sure. Of course, the argument can be made that the left hand is there as the loading fixture for the use of more dexterous tasks of pouring the powder, loading the ball and inserting the caps. Once loaded the right hand takes the revolver from the loading fixture to be shot.
YES ! We spend our samolians we should get the same service & items to fit us !
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I think the better question to be asked would be, why do so many right handed people in the shooting community feel compelled to dictate to the left handed people what they need. It's almost as if a lefty having a lefty rifle offends them somehow. Stupid, just stupid.
You sir are correct , Sam Colt may have been LH'd. That is another problem with RH'd ML's. A lefty still has to use their LH to do all the cap install or prime the pan n so on. Its backwards to us, its not comfortable n LH'd people are treated as a lower class. A business stand point of ML's if they are a small Company, is very little profit. LH'd people are not in a large quantity.
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I am going to nit pick here ! LH firearms have a higher resale because they are very hard to find !
I have an SMR and a Woodsrunner. Both fit me just fine on the left side. The WR even has significant cast in the wrong direction, but I can't tell it from bringing it up to my face and straight back into my shoulder, it just fits.
I built a left-handed gun, it's okay but the lock sucks. Really good left-handed locks are hard to find so I bought from one of the usual suspects. The next time I built a gun from a board it wore a Kibler lock because it doesn't make a rat's behind which side the lock is on as far as shooting goes.
According to a Colt revolver book I have, it is pretty certain that Sam Colt was at least left eye dominant and shot his revolvers left handed. He was also a megalomaniac and it was only natural that he wouldn't give a speckled damn about anyone else's inconvenience handling his creations. He also nearly ruined his company by making the historically stupid decision of refusing Rollin White's patent offer, but that's another story.
And to Mr. Kibler, it's your business and you run it how you need to to remain profitable. I hope your investments eventually make you a pile of money, you have earned it. However, if the tables were turned and YOU were left handed, or born with some other handicap, your attitude toward others like that would be very different. "Pride" is why most of us buy your products, some (like me) would be proud to own a proper, left-handed example of at least one of your designs. Refusing to consider 10% of your potential customer base and even going so far as to insult them is a poor business move. I guarantee you wouldn't be happy if all you could buy was a left-handed Woodsrunner to shoot.
I built a left-handed gun, it's okay but the lock sucks. Really good left-handed locks are hard to find so I bought from one of the usual suspects. The next time I built a gun from a board it wore a Kibler lock because it doesn't make a rat's behind which side the lock is on as far as shooting goes.
According to a Colt revolver book I have, it is pretty certain that Sam Colt was at least left eye dominant and shot his revolvers left handed. He was also a megalomaniac and it was only natural that he wouldn't give a speckled damn about anyone else's inconvenience handling his creations. He also nearly ruined his company by making the historically stupid decision of refusing Rollin White's patent offer, but that's another story.
And to Mr. Kibler, it's your business and you run it how you need to to remain profitable. I hope your investments eventually make you a pile of money, you have earned it. However, if the tables were turned and YOU were left handed, or born with some other handicap, your attitude toward others like that would be very different. "Pride" is why most of us buy your products, some (like me) would be proud to own a proper, left-handed example of at least one of your designs. Refusing to consider 10% of your potential customer base and even going so far as to insult them is a poor business move. I guarantee you wouldn't be happy if all you could buy was a left-handed Woodsrunner to shoot.
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I didn't have a need to feel insulted myself, but I have extraordinarily thick internet skin anyway. It does reaffirm my reasoning to never write the man a check though.......
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It is a matter of personal choice. Being left-handed, I have shot both. I really see no difference between a left- or right-hand lock. Last season I hunted with a T/C Renegade flintlock, mainly to see if I liked hunting with a flintlock after decades of hunting with percussion rifles (I did enjoy it). I have not ordered a LH flintlock yet, but I am thinking about a Jaeger rifle.
I'm lucky in two shooting areas, right hand locks and unmentionable actions don't hamper my shooting. The second is I'm not recoil sensitive.
Wing shooting is a different story. Most if not all shotguns are built for the average sized, right-hand shooter. This means that the stock has some element of cast-off. If you switch to a true, left-hand stock with cast-on, and more importantly a gun that fits you, your life will change.
I'm lucky in two shooting areas, right hand locks and unmentionable actions don't hamper my shooting. The second is I'm not recoil sensitive.
Wing shooting is a different story. Most if not all shotguns are built for the average sized, right-hand shooter. This means that the stock has some element of cast-off. If you switch to a true, left-hand stock with cast-on, and more importantly a gun that fits you, your life will change.
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Depends on whether we're talking about rifles (the issue here is cast on/off) or smooth bores, which are mostly trade gun reproductions and military muskets, with straight stocks. I'm deliberately omitting bespoke double barrel guns because...well, they're bespoke.
On production rifles, I rather think that the profile of the stock is unimportant, as the manufacturer likely cut the pattern straight, perhaps to minimize wood waste, or because it's just one more thing to fiddle with setting up shaping machinery. Hence, the production rifle is ambidextrous in design. It isn't the side the lock is mounted on, it's stock architecture.
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Stock architecture like the cheek piece and patch box being wrong sided for a lefty?
I see your remark on the WR having alot of cast in stock for RH'd shooters. That is a Bummer for me then, its tough enough for me to shoot RH'd ML's. Oh well i wish James Kibler the best on his Company.
Perhaps but he found they were much harder to sell.
Rumors. Build it and we will come. If they have not been built, how can you determine they will not sell? Build 10% of the number of righties as lefties and charge 20% more. That is the way it is now days.
