54 cal. TC Renagade sight problems

[michacooks]

I bought a renegade 38xxx serial number and the rear sight was incomplete/ missing parts. I found a matching sight on line and replaced it. All sight adjustments work but I don't know if they were the correct sights to begin with as they don't look like ones in pics I have seen. My problem the rear sight is adjusted all the way down and I am still high at 100 yds by about a foot. Sights look like I see on a lyman hawken. I shooting a .533 ball with a patch and 90 grains of RS. Any suggestion from Renegade owners

 

[michacooks]

This are my sights

 

[michacooks]

This are my sights

 

[Phil Coffins]

In the picture the rear sight isn’t all the way down, is that how it’s being fired?

 

[ohio ramrod]

If it has the wrong spring the spring could keep the sight from reaching bottom. Solution shorten the spring.

 

[centershot]

That sight is NOT all the way down, not by a long shot! Unscrew thee elevatoin adjustment screw completely and look to see what is preventing the sight blade from bottoming.

 

[bubba.50]

That's a Hawken rear sight. If that's screwed down as far as it'll go you have some serious interference somewhere. As mentioned, it could be the spring. Or, if you drilled a hole in the base to match up with the standard Renegade hole spacing you may have a screw head getting in the way.

 

[michacooks]

That's a Hawken rear sight. If that's screwed down as far as it'll go you have some serious interference somewhere. As mentioned, it could be the spring. Or, if you drilled a hole in the base to match up with the standard Renegade hole spacing you may have a screw head getting in the way.

The sight matched up to the factory hole spacing I take it apart and see if i can determine what is holding it up. Thanks for all the help

 

[OldMaineWoodsman]

Both front and rear sight are incorrect for the Renegade. The T/C Renegade utilized open "Partridge" type sights.

You could make those work, but you will be better off going on the evilBay and finding the correct Renegade sights. Front and rear.

 

[michacooks]

That's a Hawken rear sight. If that's screwed down as far as it'll go you have some serious interference somewhere. As mentioned, it could be the spring. Or, if you drilled a hole in the base to match up with the standard Renegade hole spacing you may have a screw head getting in the

Both front and rear sight are incorrect for the Renegade. The T/C Renegade utilized open "Partridge" type sights.

You could make those work, but you will be better off going on the evilBay and finding the correct Renegade sights. Front and rear.

Holes aren't quite matching up keeping a screw head from mounting flush, must be the problem, not sure of the history of this gun was in good shape, bore looks fine, will keep me busy for sometime. Mostly a centerfire shooter but try to get into something new. Thanks for all the help

 

[michacooks]

Both front and rear sight are incorrect for the Renegade. The T/C Renegade utilized open "Partridge" type sights.

You could make those work, but you will be better off going on the evilBay and finding the correct Renegade sights. Front and rear.

Thats what i thought from other pics i had seen, will go on ebay and replace both sights, not what I wanted to do.

 

[OldMaineWoodsman]

If no luck on ebay, this outfit sells T/C parts:

https://cfnparts.com/

 

[Phil Coffins]

Buying your way out of a problem is a common answer these days. There’s nothing wrong with using this sight. But that would require some thinking and problem solving. That sight will adjust down once you find out what’s holding it up.

 

[Okie Hog]

No need to buy another rear sight. Make that sight work.

 

[OldMaineWoodsman]

Yeah, make that Marlin stock work on a Winchester. It's the same caliber, right?

Using the correct sight or parts is not buying your way out of a problem. Like we say in the trade, use the right tool for the right job.

Thinking and problem solving also should lead to doing the job right the first time.

Make it work due to kitchen table "gunsmiths" is a big reason why we see so many butchered nice firearms.

 

[Kappa]

My 90s Renegade had that post style sight, my 80s renegade had the partridge style. The rear sight is from an early 70s Hawken. For my eyes when I hunt, I use peep sights and a fiber optic front sight not pc possibly….Williams sells them and maybe a bead front of your choice. The renegade sights look like a semi buckhorn for that type front sight.

 

[morehops52]

I agree with the others to make your existing sight work. If you decide to buy a different one you might want to consider a peep sight. As you age your eyes will appreciate it, mine certainly do.

 

[Okie Hog]

Both front and rear sight are incorrect for the Renegade.

Not so.

Some Renegades used bead type front sights. Three different rear sights were used in the production run of the Renegade.

CFN lists the Renegade rear sights as sold out.

 

[OldMaineWoodsman]

Not so.

Some Renegades used bead type front sights. Three different rear sights were used in the production run of the Renegade.

That may be. All of the one's that I have seen had the blade "partridge" type front sight. The problem with T/C rifles encountered today is that many have been rebuilt or cobbled together from other rifles and parts.

The point that I was trying to make is that jury-rigged repairs or modifications are not the best scenario. I have seen far too many nice firearms damaged or in need of repair or even restoration due to kitchen table "make it work or fit jobs."

I get it, not talking about a Purdey it's a T/C Renegade. But when I worked on and repaired firearms, I treated them all like a Purdey. I always found the correct part, not settling for what I happened to have on hand that might "work" just to get it out the door.

Sorry if I came across as elitist.

 

[lone hunter]

This is what came off one of my Renegades: