Italian made flintlocks

[leadhoarder]

Would you have any concerns about ordering an Italian factory gun by Perdersoli or Investarms from a reputable online dealer site unseen right now?

My concerns are about the overall quality and pan/flashhole fit. I have read here and other places that the factories had issues with their workforces being impacted by the china virus. Maybe now is not a good time to be buying?

 

[andy52]

No.

 

[leadhoarder]

No as in no concerns?

 

[frankie]

I wouldn't worry about it. I own several and they are top quality. I still imagine quality control on Pedersoli's are really great. I got a Hawken about 4 months ago and it was excellent quality.

 

[Freedom]

You only live once. Get to it!! If she turns out to be a lemon, fix it.
Or just do what everyone else does. Add $175 to what ever you paid, post it here for two weeks, and then move it to GunBroker.

 

[Freedom]

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/kib-colonial-50-cherry-lr.146022/
But in all seriousness. For what it costs to order an unseen flintlock from across the pond.(!)
If I was in the market for a great rifle I would take a real close look at the brand new Kibler Colonial that Pathfinder just posted for sale. Tic-toc Tic-toc... this one's going to disappear soon.

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

For what the Italians are asking, a Kibler’s kit would be my first choice.

Yeah, you’ll have to build it, but it’s a VERY easy and quick build with all the hard work already done for you.

The quality is phenomenal for the price, you will have ZERO worries about anything wrong with the gun, and it will be set up perfectly to be an amazing shooter with a top quality AMERICAN barrel, cutting-edge CNC lock, and just in general will be incredible.

With all that being said, I’d go for a Pedersoli if you don’t want a Kibler. Their flint locks are decent and spark pretty well. Investarms? They make good percussion guns, but their flint locks are not exactly the best IMHO.

 

[Dave Marsh]

Go American and try your hand at a Kibler kit or buy one finished.

 

[John Spartan]

I’ve bought several Pedersoli flintlocks “sight unseen” aka via mail order - one, a rarer model, direct from Pedersoli Italy.
All have been perfect, flawless, and beautiful.

 

[dbo]

This whole "build it yourself" mantra is just silly in my opinion. Most of us don't have the skills and the tools to do that kind of job ourselves!Gunsmithing and stockwork skills take practice and many times of trial and error to learn. More times than not,someone who orders a kit will just end up with a cobbled together rifle. Just my opinion

 

[andy52]

No as in no concerns?

correct no concerns.

 

[French Colonial]

This whole "build it yourself" mantra is just silly in my opinion. Most of us don't have the skills and the tools to do that kind of job ourselves! Gunsmithing and stockwork skills take practice and many times of trial and error to learn. More times than not,someone who orders a kit will just end up with a cobbled together rifle. Just my opinion

If you can run a screwdriver. a handheld drill and an exacto knife you can put together a Kibler. Probably the easiest assembly I have ever seen. Some of the toys I bought for the kids when they were little were harder to assemble on Christmas.

Oh, I almost forgot you have to slobber some stain and finish on it, they do not assemble themselves but unless your a klutz you can do it.

 

[dbo]

I didn't say you couldn't do it,I said w-out any experience you probably won't end up w as nice a piece as a new manufacture. There's nothing wrong w what the factories are putting out.

 

[dbo]

Would you have any concerns about ordering an Italian factory gun by Perdersoli or Investarms from a reputable online dealer site unseen right now?

My concerns are about the overall quality and pan/flashhole fit. I have read here and other places that the factories had issues with their workforces being impacted by the china virus. Maybe now is not a good time to be buying?

I've bought 3 in the last 4-6 months...No complaints or issues w any

 

[hanshi]

The Kibler kits come as an almost "just assemble" job. That would be my first choice. Pedersoli guns are quality and cost about as much, and usually more, than the Kibler kit. Either way it's a win/win decision. Two things to always keep in mind is that Pedersoli rifles are not particularly authentic to the period as is the Kibler. And, imported flint locks can sometimes be hit or miss. But then Pedersoli are more "hit" than "miss".

 

[dbo]

Funny,a check of the Kibler site shows the longrifle kit more expensive than any of the Pedersoli flints i've purchased, and that's BEFORE I add the extra cost of the lock

 

[French Colonial]

It depends on the Pedersoli, check the price of a Mortimer.

 

[leadhoarder]

This whole "build it yourself" mantra is just silly in my opinion. Most of us don't have the skills and the tools to do that kind of job ourselves!Gunsmithing and stockwork skills take practice and many times of trial and error to learn. More times than not,someone who orders a kit will just end up with a cobbled together rifle. Just my opinion

I know I do not have what it takes to build a kit rifle. I am humbled by the abilities of many who post on here. There is a concentration of skilled craftsmen on here that is not representative of most of us.

 

[John Spartan]

Two things to always keep in mind is that Pedersoli rifles are not particularly authentic to the period as is the Kibler. And, imported flint locks can sometimes be hit or miss. But then Pedersoli are more "hit" than "miss".

Any particular gun you are referring to reference Pedersoli and “not particularly authentic”? And no snark intended I am curious and try to learn.
For my “mini collection” I have Pedersoli French flintlocks from the Revolution/Napoleonic era. Having looked at the originals inside and out (via online pictures anyway) I’m not seeing a difference in design or parts. Not saying dimensions may not be off a tad here and there. They are a 1/2 pound heavier. I read that’s in a thicker barrel in this litigious age. Lock engraving (though it looks good to me in the few detail pics) and screw thread pitch I can’t speak to.

 

[gunpa]

Dixie has more guns than I've seen most anywhere. Prices are fair too.