Ive got the parrot vise, with the standard mount, and also a friend made a gimbal mount for it. and it works great for a lot of stuff, but it is lacking in some regards. That swiss one looks like a nice deal, especially since I dont have a lathe either. I was thinking about making a vise with the woodworkers vise, except using 2 and putting tilting jaws in them, similar to the PM vise. I would like to spend time building rifles, instead of so much time building the tools to build rifles. On th ebright side at least im not on th ecouch all the time.