Mystery muzzle loader

[piratestuff]

I have a 10 ga percussion cap double barrel shotgun that my grandfather obtained in the early 1900s which I am trying to identify. When I obtained the gun, it was completely disassembled and missing some screws and fasteners. On the locks there is some scroll work and they are stamped "New York Gun Co". there are no proof marks visible but each major part has a four digit number all matching . I am wondering if anyone has seen one of these guns or has any thoughts.

 

[SDSmlf]

I have a 10 ga percussion cap double barrel shotgun that my grandfather obtained in the early 1900s which I am trying to identify. When I obtained the gun, it was completely disassembled and missing some screws and fasteners. On the locks there is some scroll work and they are stamped "New York Gun Co". there are no proof marks visible but each major part has a four digit number all matching . I am wondering if anyone has seen one of these guns or has any thoughts.

Welcome to the forum from Western North Carolina.

Probably best if you were to take and post some clear photographs in natural light that show the overall gun and some closeups of the locks and any visible stampings or markings on the gun. Then you should get some good feedback on what you have.

 

[waksupi]

Common hardware store guns, made by Crescent and other companies. Usually pretty decent quality firearms.
This should help your curiosity!


http://www.american-firearms.com/am...scent Fire Arms Co/Crescent Fire Arms Co.html

 

[Abarnes]

I have a 10 ga percussion cap double barrel shotgun that my grandfather obtained in the early 1900s which I am trying to identify. When I obtained the gun, it was completely disassembled and missing some screws and fasteners. On the locks there is some scroll work and they are stamped "New York Gun Co". there are no proof marks visible but each major part has a four digit number all matching . I am wondering if anyone has seen one of these guns or has any thoughts.

You know you gotta add pictures

 

[piratestuff]

Here are photos of my 10 ga percussion cap double barrel shotgun that I mentioned in my post. I was finally able to download them to be viewed.

 

[Phil Coffins]

If you find no stampings on the under side of the breech end of the barrels then there’s a good chance that the shotgun was made in America. Over all it’s of the standard pattern of double gun and appears to be of better quality. The locks are of particularly good design.

 

[piratestuff]

If you find no stampings on the under side of the breech end of the barrels then there’s a good chance that the shotgun was made in America. Over all it’s of the standard pattern of double gun and appears to be of better quality. The locks are of particularly good design.

Thanks for the info, yes no proofs only the four digit number

 

[piratestuff]

Welcome to the forum from Western North Carolina.

Probably best if you were to take and post some clear photographs in natural light that show the overall gun and some closeups of the locks and any visible stampings or markings on the gun. Then you should get some good feedback on what you have.

thank you

 

[oldwood]

Welcome from Pa..

 

[oldwood]

Top of barrel says New York Gun Co. on it. Good indication it's not European. Apologies if I'm wrong , been wrong at least once before.

 

[piratestuff]

Top of barrel says New York Gun Co. on it. Good indication it's not European. Apologies if I'm wrong , been wrong at least once before.

i am leaning that way, most guns from across the pond are heavy on the proof marks this gun has the same number on every part, but then again some countries in Europe were famous for that as well

 

[waksupi]

If you look at the link I posted, it's easy to see it is a Baker.

 

[piratestuff]

If you look at the link I posted, it's easy to see it is a Baker.

I couldn't locate the post, I am still learning my way around the forum ,I may have missed it

 

[waksupi]

I couldn't locate the post, I am still learning my way around the forum ,I may have missed it

http://www.american-firearms.com/am...scent Fire Arms Co/Crescent Fire Arms Co.html

 

[piratestuff]

http://www.american-firearms.com/am...scent Fire Arms Co/Crescent Fire Arms Co.html

thanks. I went back and did see the post, is there a specific Crescent fire arms Co link you are referring to ,you indicated that by visiting the link it would be easy to see it was a Baker, so Im assuming there were examples on the site. I have searched several sites and was able to find lists of other companies they made guns for such as Baker but havent been able to find much on Baker guns like gun I have

 

[waksupi]

thanks. I went back and did see the post, is there a specific Crescent fire arms Co link you are referring to ,you indicated that by visiting the link it would be easy to see it was a Baker, so Im assuming there were examples on the site. I have searched several sites and was able to find lists of other companies they made guns for such as Baker but havent been able to find much on Baker guns like gun I have

Well, the Baker is said to not have a serial number on that page. That's as much spoon feeding I'm doing for you.

 

[piratestuff]

Well, the Baker is said to not have a serial number on that page. That's as much spoon feeding I'm doing for you.

Sorry you feel that way, My impression was that this forum was for the inexperienced to learn from the experienced, if your responses are going to be condescending please do not respond my threads.

 

[waksupi]

Sorry you feel that way, My impression was that this forum was for the inexperienced to learn from the experienced, if your responses are going to be condescending please do not respond my threads.

If you can't read what is given you, I can see no reason to waste my time, so we agree.

 

[Gun Tramp]

From the Crescent Fire Arms link: "Crescent took over what remained from Bacon in 1892." New York Arms Co. is listed; not New York Gun Co.

 

[piratestuff]

If you can't read what is given you, I can see no reason to waste my time, so we agree.

Obviously a legend in your own mind, the end .