robinsroost
50 Cal.
Has anyone tried Graf & Sons black powder? What about quality and consistency? It is a little less expensive than Goex, and I'm tempted......Robin 
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Patocazador
54 Cal.
I'm pretty sure that Graf's powder is re-branded Scheutzen which is a good black powder .. probably cleaner and more powerful than Goex.
I bought some Graf's last month but haven't used it yet.
I bought some Graf's last month but haven't used it yet.
I used several pounds about 6 years ago. It was what the bp shop I lived near at the time carried. It was good powder and accurate in all my guns.
Did you find it as clean or cleaner ??
Read Patocazador post. He mentioned Goex. Seeing as I may be ordering some soon I wanted to know, Iv'e nly shot Goex and Swiss is a tad more.
It is what I use the most. Have used goex also but tried Graf's and it shoots well in my smoothbore.
I'm luckey that I live just 45 min. away from their main store and warehouse in Mexico Mo.
Pappy :grin:
I'm luckey that I live just 45 min. away from their main store and warehouse in Mexico Mo.
Pappy :grin:
outdoorman
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I ordered some Graf's powder about a year and a half ago. I've shot FF and FFF. I do not find any difference with it than I did with Goex, which Graf's did not have at that time. I do think it is a little dirtier than Goex, but not enough for me to complain about.
Other than that, for me, it is the same as Goex. I recommend it if my opinion matters.
Good luck.
Outdoorman
Other than that, for me, it is the same as Goex. I recommend it if my opinion matters.
Good luck.
Outdoorman
Graf & sons is schuetzen - the bottles are the same. Says imported by Schuetzen Powder LLC & made by Wano Schwarzpulver Gmbh on the label. also has a paper label on side with grade, manufacture (or fill date, not sure which) date & lot number which looks the same as schuetzen.
It works the same as shuetzen or goex for me
It works the same as shuetzen or goex for me
azmntman said:
Its been a few years but I don't remember any real difference in clean-up compared to Goex.
rafterob
62 Cal.
I had 1 pound of Grafs/wano powder I won at a woodswalk. It shot well enough but I had to adjust my load slightly. I found the fouling to be "stickier" which maybe meant it was a drier fouling. Not any cleaner or less fouling than goex, just different.
I got 5 pounds of FFFG. This spring. No difference in performance from the Goex I was using.
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