Billnpatti
Cannon
- Joined
- Aug 11, 2008
- Messages
- 7,340
- Reaction score
- 40
I don't care what the naysayers may think, it is a beautiful gun.
-
This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.
Sign up here: https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/account/upgrades -
Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight.
We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.
Use this link to sign up please; https://membership.nra.org/recruiters/join/XR045103
Past CVA Manufacturing Employees
- Thread starter Rusty_Nail
- Start date
Help Support Muzzleloading Forum:
Don't worry there are some who say the 1 of 1000 Winchesters are not collectible. :bow:
I couldn't own guns like that. No way in hell I would shoot it. And not shooting it would drive me up the wall. I would have to sell them off. It would just nag at me all day.
- Joined
- Jun 12, 2005
- Messages
- 7,971
- Reaction score
- 964
wow- very nice looking rifle, with a pretty fair provenance. you might want to check with county clerks' offices around the area, also look at tax records or possibly church records.. another possible avenue would be civic organizations, such as Elks or Rotary ...
good luck on your search, and congrats on a magnificent gun!
good luck on your search, and congrats on a magnificent gun!
This is an old thread I know and it's my first post.Ladies and Gents,
I am looking for any ML Forum members that might have been an employee of Connecticut Valley Manufacturing, the factory for CVA, in the mid- to late 70s.
I have a flint Frontier rifle, SN0000001, that has a QC Manager's business card attached, was signed on the back with the rifle particulars, and the gentleman's who's name is on it, professing as his Son, sold me the rifle back over the New Year Holidays.
There were about a half dozen different ones he put on AL late NY night, a few flint, a few cap, but I was so giddy when I saw this one, I didn't even bother to check the others more than a quick read! But I did notice they were all SN# 1 or 2 shooters!
He explained in an email and call that the rifle was presented to his Dad when the tooled line was complete and ready for production of the Frontier. His Dad told him once they usually built one or two special guns before any run was started, typically to present to his Dad, the Factory Manager, CVA CEO, or some Distinguished guest that might be touring the factory. The date listed on the card puts it just before the Mt. and Frontier rifles hit the street.
I reached out to BPI/CVA, and Dudley McGarity and his Administrative Asst. emailed me back and said they were sorry, but records from back then were destroyed in a fire, and after checking, nobody in the Co. from back then was still around to verify Mr. Birk's employment. They also were quite intrigued with this gun, and mentioned they wished they had known it was available!
It has a 50 cal. barrel, with only Connecticut Valley Arms and the serial number on it. The Son mentioned the barrel was a Don Kammerdesign, but didn't know the spelling of the name. I did some gooooogling, and there was a Don Kammerer mentioned in threads on CVA guns, but nothing specific.
Just wanting to verify the name/business card is legitimate! And yes, here are a few pics to show it and the business card!
Thanks All! Rusty
I am the individual (son) who sold you those rifles and my father passed away in October of 2013 and here I am finding another one in the back of my safe room that was missed. Ten and a half years later marked prototype and dated Sept 1978.
Yes, those I sold are legitimate take homes from the factory. And yes my father worked for the company in the 70's after he was retired from the PD. I remember going to old saybrook and hanging out with one of the managers koldo who was basque when I was a kid. He left cva in the early 80s and went to work on the avco Lycoming engines in Stratford as a quality engineer. Finally ending up retiring from the army as a civilian stationed at fort Monmouth and camp market Korea. again as a gs-15 quality assurance for the department of the army.
At any rate here I am trying to search for information on what I found and I came across this thread
Honestly, I regret selling a lot of the stuff but at the time I was overwhelmed with the sheer volume of his collection.
I'm very happy that they found a good home with someone who appreciates them. I have his old police shotgun which is a high standard riot and I have his old model 19 4-in police revolver and is 1911. That's what I kept but now I think I'm going to keep this too because when I took it apart I found his engraving under the barrel.
I can most assuredly tell you that the story was correct. I only wish that he was still alive so I could get more information on this rifle.
Here is the frontier rifle prototype I found and took out shooting
At any rate, I know it's an old thread but I wanted to bring it back to the top because I found this rifle on Sunday and now it is Thursday and I am out shooting it.
- Joined
- Mar 23, 2015
- Messages
- 4,904
- Reaction score
- 3,430
Thanks for sharing great information.
Thanks for bringing this new info to us, it's a fascinating story about the history of the CVA and I have several of their guns and all are great shooters.
It measures out to 28"
Similar threads
