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Ladies and Gents,

I am looking for any ML Forum members that might have been an employee of Connecticut Valley Manufacturing, the factory for CVA, in the mid- to late 70s.

I have a flint Frontier rifle, SN0000001, that has a QC Manager's business card attached, was signed on the back with the rifle particulars, and the gentleman's who's name is on it, professing as his Son, sold me the rifle back over the New Year Holidays.

There were about a half dozen different ones he put on AL late NY night, a few flint, a few cap, but I was so giddy when I saw this one, I didn't even bother to check the others more than a quick read! But I did notice they were all SN# 1 or 2 shooters!

He explained in an email and call that the rifle was presented to his Dad when the tooled line was complete and ready for production of the Frontier. His Dad told him once they usually built one or two special guns before any run was started, typically to present to his Dad, the Factory Manager, CVA CEO, or some Distinguished guest that might be touring the factory. The date listed on the card puts it just before the Mt. and Frontier rifles hit the street.

I reached out to BPI/CVA, and Dudley McGarity and his Administrative Asst. emailed me back and said they were sorry, but records from back then were destroyed in a fire, and after checking, nobody in the Co. from back then was still around to verify Mr. Birk's employment. They also were quite intrigued with this gun, and mentioned they wished they had known it was available! :grin:

It has a 50 cal. barrel, with only Connecticut Valley Arms and the serial number on it. The Son mentioned the barrel was a Don Kammer:confused: design, but didn't know the spelling of the name. I did some gooooogling, and there was a Don Kammerer mentioned in threads on CVA guns, but nothing specific.

Just wanting to verify the name/business card is legitimate! And yes, here are a few pics to show it and the business card!

Thanks All! Rusty

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Duse, I think the provenance is pretty tight, but I'll bet there are records of the guy living in the area and working there like with taxing authorities... Know what really ticks me off?

When I see wood like that and how much extra I paid Matt at TVM for the same and got two-toned manure.
 
There was a topic about a year ago (?),, some guy joined the forum and said he had CVA Mountain Rifles that where as you describe.
IRRC he had 3, each had serial numbers 1 and/or 2 that he had won at auction from the son of the now deceased Pres of CVA.
These like yours where presentation grade rifles,,
He wanted to go shoot'm and take'm hunting. The topic drove me nut's because there was a disregard for what they where,
1st run rifles
 
Man that's not exactly what comes to mind when you think CVA Mountain Rifle! A real beauty.

Geo. T.
 
Hi Rusty,
CVA or not, that's a beauty! And in my opinion highly collect able.
I would love to have that in my gun safe.
I really don't understand why the seemingly disfavor heaped on these(and other "affordable") guns.
I certainly enjoy my CVA, Traditions, T/C, Pietta and Lyman.
 
Mr.T said:
Hi Rusty,
CVA or not, that's a beauty! And in my opinion highly collect able.
I would love to have that in my gun safe.
I really don't understand why the seemingly disfavor heaped on these(and other "affordable") guns.
I certainly enjoy my CVA, Traditions, T/C, Pietta and Lyman.

the disfavor comes from the amount of turds that each of those companies produced occasionally over the years. that being said I started off with CVAs and so have many other people.

but, just because a gun was a one off doesn't necessarily make it a collectable item. hopefully in this case it will and if not, well it's still a really nice looking gun and all that really matters is if the owner is happy. and it seems that he is.
 
Medic302 said:
just because a gun was a one off doesn't necessarily make it a collectable item.
That's a matter of opinion.
It's a shame that the same opinion happened to pervade when another guy came up with 3 CVA Mountain Rifles, unfired, serial #'s 1 and 2 a while back.

CVA has a huge history and yes they did sell out the traditional line, but the founders and the men that made those first few are now part of history. It's sad to know the cared for First run rifles have now been fired, and for all we know being drug though some swamp someplace because of some folks lowly opinion of those rifles.
 
Medic302 said:
but, just because a gun was a one off doesn't necessarily make it a collectable item. in this case it will and if not, well it's still a really nice looking gun and all that really matters is if the owner is happy. and it seems that he is.

Quite happy with it!

And though it matters not if it isn't, I will have to politely disagree that it is not a collectable. This rifle was built before and to test the tooled line before production ever started on the Frontier line of rifles.

And though I am not knowledgable in a diverse number of weapons, I can't think of a single line of weapons manufactured, crappy or not, that serial #1, whether it is the end of 4, 5, 6 or more zeros, was not a collectable. High priced, who knows, but collectable none the less.

I will now jump off my soapbox! :grin:
 
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