Unmarked percussion muzzle loader hunting rifle identification

[syoung]

Need help identifying this rifle.
I have been cleaning it up and looking for markings but there are none of any kind. The animal insets tell me its for hunting but i cant find anything like it. Could this be an old kit??

 

[syoung]

Need help identifying this rifle.
I have been cleaning it up and looking for markings but there are none of any kind. The animal insets tell me its for hunting but i cant find anything like it. Could this be an old kit??
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My micrometer is telling me the bore on this gun is .605 (.603~.607)

 

[Sam squanch]

Looks like a homemade job to me. One of a kind!

 

[sheriff john]

Could we see a photo of the whole gun? Thanks for posting this, by the way.

 

[syoung]

Could we see a photo of the whole gun? Thanks for posting this, by the way.

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[Frontier's]

yep looks home made to me. That lock panel screams lack of skill

 

[sheriff john]

Very unique percussion long arm. Most of what I see are parts someone has fashioned from what was available to them at the time. No attempt to reproduce anything other than to create something that will shoot. The animals are interesting. My question would be regarding the barrel/breech/nipple because those are the parts that can kill people when fired.

I'm interested in knowing the origin of this piece. At first glance, the wood's similar to oak, a decidedly odd choice for stocking firearms. The patchbox is nearly identical to ones we used to see on cheap muzzle loaders produced to be sold to "natives" . So ...where did this piece originate?

 

[Sam squanch]

I collect a lot of old handyman and do it yourself books and magazines from the 1950’s to 1970’s. They have had plans for muzzle loading rifles and pistols in them. This looks very similar, whoever made it did an ok job. I’d tie it to a tire and fire it with a long, long string before I held it to shoot to be careful.

 

[SDSmlf]

Need help identifying this rifle.
I have been cleaning it up and looking for markings but there are none of any kind. The animal insets tell me its for hunting but i cant find anything like it. Could this be an old kit??
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No disrespect, but looks like a pretty clumsy ‘custom’ contemporary build, though that doesn’t mean it won’t shoot, possibly very well. Enjoy it for what it is.

 

[syoung]

Very unique percussion long arm. Most of what I see are parts someone has fashioned from what was available to them at the time. No attempt to reproduce anything other than to create something that will shoot. The animals are interesting. My question would be regarding the barrel/breech/nipple because those are the parts that can kill people when fired.

I'm interested in knowing the origin of this piece. At first glance, the wood's similar to oak, a decidedly odd choice for stocking firearms. The patchbox is nearly identical to ones we used to see on cheap muzzle loaders produced to be sold to "natives" . So ...where did this piece originate?

This is 1 of 2 my father left to me (Colorado). There is a pistol and a really weird looking rifle too. These all came from his dad from northern California. That's all I really know. Mom doesn't know anything additional.
Here's a pic of the weird rifle..

 

[syoung]

No disrespect, but looks like a pretty clumsy ‘custom’ contemporary build, though that doesn’t mean it won’t shoot, possibly very well. Enjoy it for what it is.

None taken. I had a guy look at the 2 guns once before and he also said it appeared to be a homemade "custom" gun.

 

[syoung]

I collect a lot of old handyman and do it yourself books and magazines from the 1950’s to 1970’s. They have had plans for muzzle loading rifles and pistols in them. This looks very similar, whoever made it did an ok job. I’d tie it to a tire and fire it with a long, long string before I held it to shoot to be careful.

Thanks! I thought maybe a kit or similar as well.

 

[Colonial Boy]

This is 1 of 2 my father left to me (Colorado). There is a pistol and a really weird looking rifle too. These all came from his dad from northern California. That's all I really know. Mom doesn't know anything additional.
Here's a pic of the weird rifle..

Weird indeed, but weird for all the right reasons.
It’s a Schutzen breech loader [so doesn’t really belong here, but as it’s part of a ml post and relevant] and looks to be a good one.
The lump for the nipple looks to be electric welded on, so a long string test is probably warranted, however if it shows evidence of much use it’s probably OK, but a good test still wouldn’t hurt.
Interesting piece none the less.
Edit.
Just had another look at the Schutzen, looks like it might be a “mouse gun”, that is one with a short barrel at the front designed for target shooting indoors.

 

[syoung]

Weird indeed, but weird for all the right reasons.
It’s a Schutzen breech loader [so doesn’t really belong here, but as it’s part of a ml post and relevant] and looks to be a good one.
The lump for the nipple looks to be electric welded on, so a long string test is probably warranted, however if it shows evidence of much use it’s probably OK, but a good test still wouldn’t hurt.
Interesting piece none the less.

I certainly appreciate the info! Was gonna research this one soon as well. It is very clean. New to the "string test" though.

 

[Sam squanch]

That schutzen breechloader may be worth a lot of $$$, get a professional opinion!