Solution to the dry-firing problem???

[TNGhost]

Easiest and most direct solution to dry firing is to Don't Do It. If you don't get out frequently enough to maintain at least marginal proficiency, then some twinkie maneuver will be just a feelgood exercise.

You can't be serious.!!! Dry firing is great practice and is muchmuchmuch cheaper than driving to a range and shooting your gun at 40 cents a pop. You can dry fire while watching TV.

But, but ,but...its against the rules, and they're "not up for debate". :rotf:

 

[coloradoclyde]

Easiest and most direct solution to dry firing is to Don't Do It. If you don't get out frequently enough to maintain at least marginal proficiency, then some twinkie maneuver will be just a feelgood exercise.

Is there room for two on that "Band wagon"? I'll climb aboard... :haha:

No substitute for real shooting and recoil...IMO.

 

[Poor Private]

I also will climb on that Band wagon- if your going to fire fire for real. And dry firing while watching TV- I can see ya shooting it, not only that any youngster in the house with you, it looks like play, and thats a whole nuther kettleof fish being opened up.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Because you don't get any real feedback when dry firing, it's a great way to reinforce bad habits.... :td:

 

[Obi-Wan Cannoli]

Because you don't get any real feedback when dry firing, it's a great way to reinforce bad habits.... :td:

The only feedback you need is your sight picture. Dry firing helps to develop the muscle memory required for proper trigger control. The lack of recoil, loud noises, smoke, and flashes actually emphasizes what you are doing wrong in this operation.

Next time you are at a range teaching somebody how to shoot, load the bp revolver for them, don't let them see the process this one time, and place just a primer on the 4th chamber with no ball, lube, or powder in that chamber. Wait till they get to that chamber, they will be anticipating the recoil, and watch how their hand jerks down and to the left...these bad habits get ironed out with dry firing.

 

[Obi-Wan Cannoli]

But, but ,but...its against the rules, and they're "not up for debate". :rotf:

Yeah, I know, gun safety is the funniest thing on the planet, until you find yourself crying your eyes out and puking your guts out trying to explain what went wrong to the police, then it becomes considerably less funny.

 

[coloradoclyde]

The only feedback you need is your sight picture. Dry firing helps to develop the muscle memory required for proper trigger control. The lack of recoil, loud noises, smoke, and flashes actually emphasizes what you are doing wrong in this operation.

I disagree....Feedback = bull's-eyes....and trigger control can be developed with live ammo.
Recoil teaches you how to grip and regain sight picture......
Real shooting is not like a video game IMO.

 

[Obi-Wan Cannoli]

The only feedback you need is your sight picture. Dry firing helps to develop the muscle memory required for proper trigger control. The lack of recoil, loud noises, smoke, and flashes actually emphasizes what you are doing wrong in this operation.

I disagree....Feedback = bull's-eyes....and trigger control can be developed with live ammo.
Recoil teaches you how to grip and regain sight picture......
Real shooting is not like a video game IMO.

You know you are creating a straw man with your video game remark. :wink:

There is no substitute for live fire, I was never trying to imply that.

What dry firing does is give you another tool to utilize in your training regiment. You can only control what happens up until the point the primer is struck in live fire, then physics takes over, dry firing allows you to practice everything that is within your control in the shooting process.

 

[TNGhost]

Opie-Wan, please take a look at this video and explain the behavior of the participants in the context of undebatable firearms rules. You can pick it up at about the 2 minute mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjaCD7d4IJQ

 

[Obi-Wan Cannoli]

Nice video...but I can't even believe that somebody is arguing against gun safety on a gun forum. It is kind of surreal to be honest. :idunno:

 

[TNGhost]

Nice video...but I can't even believe that somebody is arguing against gun safety on a gun forum. It is kind of surreal to be honest. :idunno:

Not arguing against firearm safety, just for common sense.


So you didn't say how the rules apply to the activities in the video??????

 

[larry wv]

In Marine Boot camp we dry fired our M14s for a couple days before going with real live ammo. This was in 1968 and the USMC turned out some of the best marksmen in the world.

Larry

 

[TNGhost]

In Marine Boot camp we dry fired our M14s for a couple days before going with real live ammo. This was in 1968 and the USMC turned out some of the best marksmen in the world.

Larry

Yes, there is quite the difference between the professional use of firearms and the casual. Be it modern or muzzleloader.


I still question as to whether dry firing a BP revolver on the bare nipples harms it at all, provided it has hard nipples. :wink:

 

[coloradoclyde]

I still question as to whether dry firing a BP revolver on the bare nipples harms it at all, provided it has hard nipples.

YES!.....it does.... :grin:

 

[azmntman]

I do not believe it harms the gun in any way. It will destroy the nipple(s), or at least is likely to flatten them and thus they become in need of a file.

To those that wish to dry fire....my blessings. Those opposed....my blessing.

Carry on.

:v

 

[john gill]

You can't be serious.!!! Dry firing is great practice and is muchmuchmuch cheaper than driving to a range and shooting your gun at 40 cents a pop. You can dry fire while watching TV.

But, but ,but...its against the rules, and they're "not up for debate". :rotf:

I know. The nanny-staters say you only point a gun at something you want to hit and can only dry fire if you are outdoors and aim at a target with a backstop. Safety first.

 

[TNGhost]

I do not believe it harms the gun in any way. It will destroy the nipple(s), or at least is likely to flatten them and thus they become in need of a file.

To those that wish to dry fire....my blessings. Those opposed....my blessing.

Carry on.

:v

So actually, just having a spare set of nipples around, might be the easiest answer. I know many replace the stock nipples with afermarkets, so they may already have the answer at hand.

"I know. The nanny-staters say you only point a gun at something you want to hit and can only dry fire if you are outdoors and aim at a target with a backstop. Safety first." rooger2016

Yep and they'll do anything to make it more complicated, difficult, unfriendly and harder to become familiar with, use and enjoy guns, in order to reduce the numbers of gun owners, to further advance their agenda to relieve us all of the burden. Seems there are some around here.

 

[Obi-Wan Cannoli]

"I know. The nanny-staters say you only point a gun at something you want to hit and can only dry fire if you are outdoors and aim at a target with a backstop. Safety first." rooger2016

Yep and they'll do anything to make it more complicated, difficult, unfriendly and harder to become familiar with, use and enjoy guns, in order to reduce the numbers of gun owners, to further advance their agenda to relieve us all of the burden. Seems there are some around here.

It is clear by your statements that both of you have zero professional experience or training with either traditional or modern firearms. I am beginning to doubt that you even read the brochure that came with your revolver. Your willful negligence on this magnitude is what fuels the "Nanny State", and I am sorry that you do not see that.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Yep and they'll do anything to make it more complicated, difficult, unfriendly and harder to become familiar with, use and enjoy guns, in order to reduce the numbers of gun owners, to further advance their agenda to relieve us all of the burden. Seems there are some around here.

Unfortunately you don't even realize that your own rhetoric is part of the problem instead of a solution...
:shake:

 

[Obi-Wan Cannoli]

I know. The nanny-staters say...

Do you consider Jeff Cooper to be a nanny-stater? Because I consider him to be a Marine Corps war hero and legendary firearms instructor. He was an advocate of those rules you ridicule.