Bronze Gonne

[Smokey Plainsman]

Thanks, gang.

I was going for bronze since I thought it would be neat and also corrosion resistance. There is a historic specimen I had in mind of approx. .54 caliber that I thought would be really cool to have in the original bronze alloy. I have several .54 caliber black powder guns, and sharing the same caliber would be cool, and very cool since it was the original caliber for the handgonne.

I guess now though, that most contemporary makers of the arcane and incredibly obsolete handgonne prefer to use steel.

 

[Jumpshot]

Are you wanting a replica of the Tannenberg gonne specfically? Or will this just be for any handgonne?

 

[dave_person]

Hi Earl,
On page 58 of Sean McLachlan's "Medieval Handgonnes" is a picture of a very nice cast brass (not bronze) Danish handgonne from the late 1400s or early 1500s. Brass is strong and very corrosion resistant. In T. F. Tout's excellent monograph "Firearms in England in the Fourteenth Century" he includes period descriptions of guns being made of "cuprum" which was a term used for both brass and bronze. Indeed, modern archaeologists use the term "copper alloy" because the makeup of so many brass and bronze artifacts is a mixture of many alloys with many impurities. Anyway, brass was used for gonnes as well as bronze. Steel was almost certainly never used because it was very difficult to make before the 18th century. In fact, steel did not become cheap until the bessemer process was invented in the 19th century and it was as valuable as silver before production became cheap. Ferrous handgonnes were made of iron not steel. Consequently, I doubt anyone today is making handgonnes of iron but rather mild steel. So either way, you are not going to get a "period correct" alloy.

dave

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

No, the Tannenburg handgonne was not the only one made of bronze.

 

[Jumpshot]

I know. But if you're looking for the Tannenberg in particular, there are exact replicas out there that you can find on the auction sites occasionally. They were made a long time ago but they pop up now and then. I have one.

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Thanks, I am not though. I was interested in getting someone to make me a repro of a .54/.55 caliber one based off an original that had that same caliber, out of bronze (the original material).

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

If it would be safe, I'd still love to have one in either bronze or brass at this point. At least .50 caliber, preferably .54 caliber.

This is the one I wanted to have recreated:
http://www.handgonne.com/gonne_2a.html

 

[RocklockI]

HI here is mine. http://s600.photobucket.com/user/rocklockI/media/1_zpsee73b69e.jpg.html?sort=3&o=7

This the curator of the Military Museum in Stockholm Sweden , she is holding the original next to one of my Morko repo.
http://s600.photobucket.com/user/r...1272899668000_zpsdd1b9d95.jpg.html?sort=3&o=8

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Wow! That's nifty. Does it shoot?

 

[RocklockI]

Oh yea .62 RB with about 40 grs 2f .

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

That is very, VERY awesome. It looks like some dudes head coming out of the Gonne!! Where is the touch hole by chance?

 

[RocklockI]

Some Dudes head . According to long held belief that Dude is Jesus !

The gun is covered with script ,long thought to be the Ava Marina Catholic prayer .

A freind has reinterpeted the script and says it has nothing to with the Catholic prayer.

For more on his theory look up Morko Cold Case file online.

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Ah, Jesus! Kind of looks like Jesus.

It has a real neat look to it. What kind of tiller do you have on it? I sure would like one of these, talk about a work of art. Looks way more interesting than just a turned pipe like most repro handgonnes.

 

[RAEDWALD]

There is http://www.derbyshirearms.co.uk who make reproduction handgonnes.

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Excellent, but expensive.

 

[Tinker2]

Excellent, but expensive.

key word is "HAND MADE & CUSTOM BUILT"




William

 

[Zonie]

I don't know how long ago that builders link was made but the prices indicate it must have been some time ago.

It says they will sell you a recreation of a 1728 Longland Pattern Musket for 375 Pounds.

That would be around $500 in US money.

The line forms at the rear.

"I'll take 3 of them." :grin:

 

[Tinker2]

Web page said “updated 02/03/2016” and “the barrels are tubing”




William Alexander

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Gag a maggot! :surrender:

 

[jaxenro]

Gunmetal is the bronze alloy traditionally used for cannons
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunmetal

A place like online metals usually has round bar stock in this alloy

I have found two different sources for turning the barrels both said they would when they had some time but I been waiting a year