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    Committee of Safety musket

    I suggest that you read AMERICAN MILITARY SHOULDER ARMS Vol.I Part II.by George D. Moller which discusses among other subjects Committee of Safety muskets as well as early American muskets in general.In particular see PP 106 through 130 for a fine discussion on Committee of Safety muskets.One...
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    Club butt

    What you have here with the 46 in barrel is a demi boucanier.If your gun was assembled from the Rifle Shoppe their parts were cast from an original Tulle with a 54 in barrel.There are less than about 10 boucaniers known with two by Tulle.Kevin shows a St. Etienne and Jim Mullins in American...
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    Committee of Safety musket

    Well said Rich and I think a correct statement.I have a nice original flintlock musket probably from Conn.{cherry stocked}with parts from English,French and possibly Dutch or German guns.The barrel is 40 in.and .75 cal.with front sight doubling as a bayonet lug.I date the gun possibly prior to...
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    Jaeger length?

    I would give a great deal of credence to Stophel here as always where Germanic rifles are discussed and I suggest a serious look at "JAEGER RIFLES" a collection of articles in "Muzzle Blasts" by George Shumway. Tom Patton
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    Just finished .62 boucanier fusil....

    looks as though you have a nice New England club butt fowling piece and not a Buccaneer.It's easy to get those fowling pieces confused with the French Buccaneers and I almost bid on one last year.It's very easy to see how the club butts derive from the Buccaneers and Tom Grinslade's book is an...
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    India-Made, With A Flair

    Hey there Matt,I just finished reading this complete thread and you are correct in your assessment.But It was my "PENANCE" :idunno: .I would recommend Shakespeare who wrote a play and P.T.Barnum whose evaluation cannot be forgotten. But hey I cannot help but consider this thread as a great...
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    French guns

    to add to my previous post I can only say that Kevin's book reflects an inordinate amount of research and as shown by the many examples and after my third read I can only hope that eventually we will see its equal as regards other French guns especially those from Liege and other makers.By the...
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    French guns

    I agree with Alex here but remember that Kevin's book is pretty well limited to St.Etienne guns. In fact in the Conclusion he writes that further research could be done on continental suppliers of the programs offered in the fur trade posts and at the King's storehouses in New France for Native...
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    Not Period Correct but works wonderful

    I do some restoration work and will mention two different guns.The first one was a Springfield 1863 with some rust especially where it had stood in a corner and that I couldn't do much about it the other severe area was the rear sight which was really severe and locked up.Here I used an old...
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    20 gauge fowler - help me decide

    I agree totally and although it may be a moot issue I would consider Mike Brooks whose fowling pieces are outstanding Also the presence of a rear sight on a fowling piece does not make the gun a rifle.This is true on some of the early De chasses. :hmm:
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    Thinking about a Canoe Gun

    I will, however, agree with you that buying a reputable gun/parts from someone like Northstar West or the above makers will bring far more enjoyment in the long run than a cobbled-together piece that may prove more frustrating than fun and will never quite look right. Matt's statement that a...
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    Thinking about a Canoe Gun

    About 50 years ago I stopped in York,Pa. to show a probable Tenn.flint consignment to Joe Kindig Jr.and get his opinion on it. He told me it was western Pa.gun worth about $300.00 He asked me if I was interested in a good Pa. rifle and offered me an unsigned Geo. Eister for about $6,000.00...
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    Hatfield Flintlock Serial Number ?

    I don't have the gun but both the serial and caliber numbers were easily visible so it had to be on one of the three upper flats.
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    Hatfield Flintlock Serial Number ?

    As I recall,in the late 1980's to 1990's I bought an unfired flintlock Hatfield serial no.367 in .45 cal.I gave it to my wife and my son has it now.I had all kinds of lock problems until I got an after market lock.We don't shoot it much anymore but still have it. I never really thought much of...
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    old muzzleloader!!

    Dan is spot on with his post.When I get an old gun in rough condition the ONLY treatment I do and this is not the case in all guns like this is to LIGHTLY wipe it with a DAMP cloth.I have seen too many gun values drop by well meaning treatment.I once got a Springfield model 1861 with a frozen...
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    Davis Fine Fusil Kit

    I have wondered when someone would mention this gun. This is the ONLY French trade gun kit that I will recommend. The gun was manufactured in Liege{Belgium}which supplied a large number of Fusils de traite to New France and therefore can be considered as French.Although not always signed they...
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    Tulle

    Alex,you and I have had this conversation several times since you started building these guns and I have marveled at the progress you have made especially in the pied de vache butt architecture.Fusils de chasse may vary and do so. This is true among the three with which I am most familiar but...
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    mystery

    get a plain horn and bag and hang it above the fireplace or some such appropriate place. Tom Patton
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    Early BP sources

    And lets not forget Mary and John Patton {1751-1836} of upper East Tennessee who furnished powder to Colonel John Sevier and Colonel Isaac Shelby in the amount of 500 pounds for use at Kings Mountain in 1780. Tradition says that they received no payment. Her kettle is shown at Rocky Mount...
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    How young to throw a tomahawk?

    Here we have a classic example of a lawsuit waiting to happen.NO ONE under the age of majority {18-21} should be handling weapons of ANY kind without parental permission and remember that in many states parental waivers do not apply to children even when signed by one or more parents so that the...
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