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    The War Between The States Discussions

    For a reason
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    I think that was called for on the first line before it veered off in to the modren andZonie shut it down. We can’t change history for sure, I Remember a t shirt about the titanic that said ‘it sank get over it’ so what keeps me on it? I want to own a gun,go to a church of my choosing, read a...
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    Not in chains. Specific plan to stop a tyranny of the majority. it is not a “living document” it was not planned to be. The house represents the people. And changes every two years. Any bill passed in the house has to pass the senate, a congress of states, then has to pass the president who can...
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    And an important fact about the blockade. You only blockade enemy ports, you close your own ports. when Lincoln blockaded he made a de jur recognition of the CSA as an independent nation
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    I think I’m in my right mind. Maybe not, I’m a history nerd that dresses up in funny clothes go out in the woods a 63 year old man playing cowboys and Indians. I build ship models with little thin strips of wood.... maybe I am half crazy. However cost makes a difference, the world turns on...
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    Dred Scott did was not a ‘raciest’ decision. It was a decision of nine justices appointed by presidents confirmed by representatives of the states In the senate. It was in keeping with precedent. the idea that certain races were incapable Of higher thought. It was a 7/2 opinion, handed down by...
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    Because win or lose the south was wronged, and every citizen since had lived under a government that considered itself sovereign over the people.
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    They did not, but were legal captives in a trade five thousand years old. They were not and could not be citizens They were listed at the time as Real property They. Were accursed a 3/5 status of a real citizen. You would have been hard pressed to have found any educated person who held blacks...
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    And many don’t, but only after treaty between the two powers. And this wasn’t just a base, this was a fortress that could close the port. Just a few years before a terrorist supported by abolitionist had moved to invade and kill slave owners. A year later Lincoln would meet Harriet Beecher...
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    After leaving the union South Carolina had the responsibility to protect its own harbor. What it did not need or want was a foreign fort commanding its harbor. Between December and april the south gave the feds ample time to leave the fort. Lincoln almost did but crawfished. Leaving the British...
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    The south made the war about property. Lincoln’s stroke was all about hypocrisy not genius. The fact a bunch of bully boys can beat you up and take what is yours doesn’t display a lot of brains.
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    Our founders wrote in the Declaration of Independence that the colonies had suffered a long line of abuses before deciding to break away from the empire. The south would argue the same thing, so it was not a light decision. However a governments legitimacy depends on the consent of the...
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    Much of the argument over the last 5000+ post have revolved around that. The idea that to support the south is to support slavery. And that is wrong. Freedom of the press means you can publish the Protocols of Zion. Supporting your right to do so is not the same as antisemitism. When we look...
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    No C, they fought to defend their rights and have a government of their choice. If you can say that the south fought to preserve slavery then who were they fighting, since Lincoln said he had no wish to effect slavery in states it already existed.
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    The War Between The States Discussions

    No part of the constitution prevented leaving it, I do not ignore the states have a right to change the constitution just point out how the constitution designed the changing process as a tough bar to overcome. If slavery was not already prohibited by the constitution eleven states could of in...
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