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    Ottoman Guns

    Wondrous to see this thread still going, with beautiful content to boot. There are some still standing indeed in Istanbul; a whole neighborhood is named Nişantaşı because of these pillars. And what I know of the topic indeed corroborates your information. I never could believe Mahmud II making...
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    Kabyle Musket

    Unfortunately customs here are massively anal about anything looking vaguely gun-shaped (the very, very broad definition of a firearm in Turkish law helps, no doubt), and incompetent to boot. I'm not sure if I'd try my chance with bringing anything from abroad besides actually taking it myself -...
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    Miquelet article, 1985 Gun Digest No. 39

    Hello Rick, I don't suppose you have a photo of said gun? A miquelet lock shaped like that would be quite the sight to see.
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    Ottoman Guns

    In Turkish we have a saying, "He who's accustomed is worse than he who's frenzied". Old habits die hard and all that. Wonderful resource, thank you! That percussion-converted Makedonka is one to remember. I missed out on miquelet version a few years back and haven't seen one like it since.
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    Traditional M/L Guns from India

    I've seen a couple, besides rickystl's dual ignition one. This one in the Royal Armouries is the closest one that came to mind, but you can find a couple more on the internet. There's one in my gun photo archive but I can't be bothered to find it.
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    Ottoman Guns

    Something odd that I stumbled upon in Wikipedia; Martini-action rifles made to handle like traditional Ottoman/Caucasian muzzleloaders through massive modification of the stock-receiver interface.
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    The Hall... Before It Was Cool

    An object in the Royal Armouries has had my interest for quite some time now, but the thought of making a thread about it here in the forum has come to my mind only now. It's a tip-up breech musket, predating the Kammerlader, the Hall, the Crespi and so on, with a patent that apparently dates...
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    Ottoman Guns

    @cyten providing us with invaluable data, as always. Honestly I've never been much of a numbers man, and Ottoman economics, what with constant devaluation, seem like an almost incomprehensible field to my eyes. I'd trust the info you provided more than what I could put together. On another...
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    Ottoman Guns

    One should not forget that the Janissaries of that era could hardly be called "military" in the modern sense of the word, or even the contemporary European sense of the word. They had nothing akin to drill, uniform, or standard armament (most of their arms being privately owned). It was more of...
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    Ottoman Guns

    Robert Elgood has a good explanation for this. The first part is obvious; martial figures such as soldiers or bandits need to be on the move, and thus cannot have fixed symbols of wealth like houses or plantations. Therefore, for such people, the only way to show off your wealth is to carry it...
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    The First American Military Breechloading Rifle....,

    Hello, I've seen other similar tip-up chamber designs from earlier. Would they not qualify as well?
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    East meets west. Peter Hofkircher C 1525

    Oh my. That North Italian one is especially interesting since muzzle is almost identical in form with the Ottoman matchlocks that I mentioned. I wonder if the gunmakers were directly inspired by such an example?
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    East meets west. Peter Hofkircher C 1525

    The earliest dragon's head muzzles that I know of are of Ottoman make (there are pictures of them in the vikingsword Ottoman matchlock examples thread). Would be happy to see European examples.
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    East meets west. Peter Hofkircher C 1525

    If I recall correctly, it was the Mughals (Babur specifically) that led to the proliferation of firearms in India, having brought along Ottoman and Persian gunsmiths with him (he speaks of an Ustad Ali-Quli as his master cannonmaker in the Baburnama, and Quli is a Persian Turcoman surname/title...
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    Ottoman Guns

    Bit of a digression from the thread topic, but to my understanding, even back then the matter was a point of contention. More pious movements were against essentially all drawing in general, but those seem to have been seen as outliers and not very well regarded in classical Ottoman society...
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