Sargent York - 1941

[Whitworth]

I always like the rifle range part . Here is Sgt. York at the 1942 Jimtown Beef Shoot.

 

[Eutycus]

I guess June Lockhart is about the only one from the cast left. I had forgot Dickie Moore had past a few years ago.

 

[Celticstoneman]

I had watched the movie a number of times as a child and a dozen or more times since. Actually, pretty much every time I got the chance. LOVE the Beef Critter shoot.

My Dad gave me his WWII copy of "How to shoot the U.S. Army Rifle" when I was in my 30's and I was surprised that MANY still pics from the movie are in it.

How to Shoot the U.S. Army Rifle : Infantry Journal : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Gus

Gus, Thanks for that link! Wonderful book that I haven't seen in forty years.

 

[Artificer]

Gus, Thanks for that link! Wonderful book that I haven't seen in forty years.

You are most welcome.

Gus

 

[Reno]

Great Movie and man, Loyal to his God, His Country and family.

 

[Eutycus]

I almost made the remark like "Why can't Hollywood make movies like that anymore"?Then it dawned on me Hollywood don't have near the star power nor the real heros to film about. Todays excuses for movie stars fall way short of the ones we had way back when.And what heros?

 

[Cornbread]

I have this saved on my DVR since Memorial Day last year. And it’s stopped at the “Turkey Shoot” scene. The only channel that has the decency to show it every year is Turner Classic Movies.

In the last 10 years I thought Hollyweird should remake “Sgt York” or even more - “The Red Badge of Courage” because the CGI could REALLY replicate large groups of troops, formations, etc.
Instead, “Ghostbusters” gets remade and sequel after sequel (ala “Fast and Furious”) gets made. Where’s John Milius when we need him to write the screenplay or direct these reinterpretations? That would go a long way to restoring credibility with the millions like me who don’t bother going to theaters any more!

P.S. Gotta love that getup Gary Cooper is wearing to clean guns!

 

[old iron]

I'm a huge fan of Sgt. York, for all the reasons stated by others above. The homestead, cemetery, and grist mill are there in Pal Mall, TN. I'm lucky because it is just north of Dale Hollow lake where my family has a house near Monroe. But every year in the spring (Last weekend of March) they hold a meat shoot in his honor. It is a chunk gun (over the log) shoot everyone goes home with meat. It has been a while since I went, but so wanted to this year. Sadly, I was recovering from spine surgery. Competitors traditionally wear traditional fedoras, suits or coveralls with a shirt and tie... and ladies nice dresses, (or some masculine)

Anyone interested in Hx and all kids should first see the movie, get to know his background and history a little better. Being thus prepared, make the pilgrimage to that area of North Central Tennessee. Do it at any time, but if you can at least witness the shoot along with the historic sites.. all the better.

On the way south to Pall Mall, from the state line on 127, is the Forbus general store... stop by and see their cigar Indians on the porch and get some fudge. After the shoot, go back north. At the state line use 111 from Static, go South towards Byrdstown, and get some fried catfish for dinner at the Farmhouse restaurant (Bob-Cat Den was a little further south, but closed 2019).
Then continue on south down to the Shell station and turn Right on Memorial drive. There you will find the Cordell Hull Homestead. Log cabin. He was the longest serving US Secretary of state. He had also been a Senator and a Representative. He was the person who spearheaded the founding of the United Nations for which he won a Nobel Peace Prize.
Take your fishing rod and Tent or trailer to stay at the state campgrounds at Dale Hollow. It truly is a beautiful part of the US with it's rolling hills. The world record smallmouth was taken near there. Smallmouth fishing is best at about the time the dogwoods are blooming. (end of April though May)
PS it's still in the Ohio River Valley. Dale Hollow (Obey R.) pours into the Cumberland which ends in the Ohio R.

I strongly agree anyone interested in history will enjoy visiting ! a few years back we were on a Ford Model T tour and this was one of our stops, you can visit his home that the state built and paid for him ,also trenches dug out behind to show what life was like fighting out of them, yes a true HERO, want to go to the meat shoot next year , a beautiful part of our country!!

 

[mooman76]

I have this saved on my DVR since Memorial Day last year. And it’s stopped at the “Turkey Shoot” scene. The only channel that has the decency to show it every year is Turner Classic Movies.

In the last 10 years I thought Hollyweird should remake “Sgt York” or even more - “The Red Badge of Courage” because the CGI could REALLY replicate large groups of troops, formations, etc.
Instead, “Ghostbusters” gets remade and sequel after sequel (ala “Fast and Furious”) gets made. Where’s John Milius when we need him to write the screenplay or direct these reinterpretations? That would go a long way to restoring credibility with the millions like me who don’t bother going to theaters any more!

P.S. Gotta love that getup Gary Cooper is wearing to clean guns!

If they remade the movie, they would just ruin it like allot of other classics they remade. Rarely do they make it as good or better.

 

[Whitworth]

A new "Sgt. York" movie would have be unrecognizable to us to pass the standards of Hollyweird today.

 

[Whitworth]

The real story is even more impressive than the movie version. You should watch this episode about Sgt. York made by the NRA for the 100 year anniversary of WW1. It is impressive to say the least.

'Over There': The Sgt. Alvin York Story | American Rifleman | Official Journal Of The NRA

Just watched that video, thanks for posting. As a Civil War relic hunter I found the part about tracing the only US 30-06 cases found in the German area to the pile of .45ACP cases to be fascinating. I can't imagine the thrill of finding the first one and then another and realizing you've discovered right where it all happened. To then find the .45 empties must have been a near religious moment, truly sobering. When I find a relic, I think of the Mother's son who touched it last, be it a button, a bullet or shell fragment and wonder if they survived to go home.

 

[fjrdoc]

I got goosebumps when they talked about finding the cases.

 

[Griz44Mag]

I got goosebumps when they talked about finding the cases.

I did wonder about that.
WW1 with thousands - no - tens of thousands of soldiers from both sides concentrated in the area where trench warfare was the normal.
We have to assume that in a trench with German machine guns in action - there would have to be thousands and thousands of spent casings - EVEYWHERE.
For an investigation to take place over one tiny episode in one tiny place in just one of hundreds (thousands) of of these battles, and finding a few dozen of a specific type of rifle case - seemed a little odd to me. Did they really take the time to analyze the reports of the incident that thoroughly?
Please don't misunderstand - I think this is one of the most epic movies ever made - that shows the heart and sole of what America once was.
Every war has it's hero's and villain's stories. Alvin York was a real life hero - and a model of patriotism and virtue that we should all appreciate and admire.

 

[Tn poor boy]

It just shows God can use a common man put him in right place at right times

 

[Rató:rats]

Got this movie on vhs from the local library when I was 12
Loved it immediately. Walter Brennan as the preacher is awesome

 

[Whitworth]

I did wonder about that.
WW1 with thousands - no - tens of thousands of soldiers from both sides concentrated in the area where trench warfare was the normal.
We have to assume that in a trench with German machine guns in action - there would have to be thousands and thousands of spent casings - EVEYWHERE.
For an investigation to take place over one tiny episode in one tiny place in just one of hundreds (thousands) of of these battles, and finding a few dozen of a specific type of rifle case - seemed a little odd to me. Did they really take the time to analyze the reports of the incident that thoroughly?
Please don't misunderstand - I think this is one of the most epic movies ever made - that shows the heart and sole of what America once was.
Every war has it's hero's and villain's stories. Alvin York was a real life hero - and a model of patriotism and virtue that we should all appreciate and admire.

I did some more digging (pardon the pun) and found a couple of technical reports which described the methodology used. I studied Archeology years ago and did some field work. As an amateur archeologist I found their methods and conclusions based upon records and field work to be conclusive.

BTW it wasn't a defensive trench the Germans were occupying, it was a boundary ditch from centuries before. As such it had it had no defensive zigzags so Sgt. York was presented with a straight line of Germans to fire upon. In naval terms he crossed the "T", for the whole line of German riflemen couldn't pivot 90 degrees to fire down the line. The doomed bayonet attack was a direct result of the situation where close quarters shooting would only wound your own men in front of you. Draw your own conclusions on the number of bodies a .30-06 could go thru when Sgt. York shot down that ditch so his rifle's effectiveness was probably multiplied.

 

[Griz44Mag]

I did some more digging (pardon the pun) and found a couple of technical reports which described the methodology used. I studied Archeology years ago and did some field work. As an amateur archeologist I found their methods and conclusions based upon records and field work to be conclusive.

BTW it wasn't a defensive trench the Germans were occupying, it was a boundary ditch from centuries before. As such it had it had no defensive zigzags so Sgt. York was presented with a straight line of Germans to fire upon. In naval terms he crossed the "T", for the whole line of German riflemen couldn't pivot 90 degrees to fire down the line. The doomed bayonet attack was a direct result of the situation where close quarters shooting would only wound your own men in front of you. Draw your own conclusions on the number of bodies a .30-06 could go thru when Sgt. York shot down that ditch so his rifle's effectiveness was probably multiplied.

Makes good sense to me. I have tagged 2 does with one 270 round and a hollow point - the ammo they used was likely armor piercing.

 

[appalichian hunter]

Basic issue 30-06 ammo WW-1, 150gr cupro-nickle jacket bullet, muzzle vel. of appox 850 fps. still enough too shoot pass throughs. doubtful that A.P. would of been used bye York.

 

[springfield art]

Sergeant York; True American Patriot and God-fearing man.

 

[Rudall]

It just shows God can use a common man put him in right place at right times

He did a great job with Hitler.