Speaking of arquebuses

[BillinOregon]

My apologies if someone posted this link before. I had seen the short one, but not this one and it is fascinating.
If there were some sort of Nobel Prize for enthusiastic firearms historians and experimenters, I would nominate our Hungarian friend Balász Németh!

 

[TobJohn]

One of his best videos! I am not currently aware of an original wheellock arquebus that matches the ones the research team found in the river. I wonder if they have any ideas what the stocks looked like?

The 1520s was the decade the arquebus really left its mark! Rhodes, Pavia, Mohacs, Vienna.

 

[TobJohn]

This video just popped up on my YouTube homepage (they are always watching...) and its criminal it only has 77k views!

 

[The Miner '49er]

Great video, but even with a closed pan cover and wearing shooting glasses, I would be leery of lighting the match and firing that close to my face.

 

[TobJohn]

Great video, but even with a closed pan cover and wearing shooting glasses, I would be leery of lighting the match and firing that close to my face.

Eyebrows and bangs are unchristian. Pius arquebusiers don’t need to worry

 

[The Miner '49er]

Oh yeah?

 

[TobJohn]

Oh yeah?View attachment 316373

Clearly a heretic or a heathen

 

[Barud]

One of his best videos! I am not currently aware of an original wheellock arquebus that matches the ones the research team found in the river. I wonder if they have any ideas what the stocks looked like?

The 1520s was the decade the arquebus really left its mark! Rhodes, Pavia, Mohacs, Vienna.

There are some in the Landeszeughaus in Gras, apparently. I only know of this fact and have photos of it in my collection -again- thanks to the late Michael Tromner and the Vikingsword forums.

 

[TobJohn]

There are some in the Landeszeughaus in Gras, apparently. I only know of this fact and have photos of it in my collection -again- thanks to the late Michael Tromner and the Vikingsword forums.

Those were refurbished at the end of the century or in the 1600s, with the stocks replaced. The book on Graz wheellocks has more detail.

Michael, being THE expert he was, even corrects some of the Graz book’s miss dating of them.

 

[Barud]

Those were refurbished at the end of the century or in the 1600s, with the stocks replaced. The book on Graz wheellocks has more detail.

Michael, being THE expert he was, even corrects some of the Graz book’s miss dating of them.

Yes, now looking at it, the file names of the images do say that. The second one seems not to have a refurbished stock, though, although it is of a later date. I guess one could take a look at the tschinkes (which do seem similar to me, although with caricature proportions), the 1568 dated one, and speculate a course on what they must have looked like from there.

 

[TobJohn]

Yes, now looking at it, the file names of the images do say that. The second one seems not to have a refurbished stock, though, although it is of a later date. I guess one could take a look at the tschinkes (which do seem similar to me, although with caricature proportions), the 1568 dated one, and speculate a course on what they must have looked like from there.

This is just spit-balling here, but this is my guess:

Given that the surviving wheellock pistols of the 1520s (found in the balkan battlefields) have the grip shape similar enough to the matchlock arquebus cheek stock:

(The angles of the above stock are more clear in person)

They probably looked like the French wheellock estimated from the same time:

 

[TobJohn]

I re watched the video and was reminded that the wheellocks are from the 1540s, and not the 1520s, which is when Mohacs was fought. There are several surviving wheellocks from the 1540s.