Investarms Hawken sight upgrade?

[SDHNTR]

Are there any aftermarket peeps or fiber optics available for these rifles? I can’t see the factory sights anymore to save my life. Just a fuzzy blur.

I bought this one and it doesn’t fit. Anything else?

https://muzzle-loaders.com/products/williams-fire-sight-set-cabelas-hawken-muzzleloader-ia70134

 

[Scota@4570]

With a good peep sight all comes into focus. Get a good front sight too, like a lyman 17.

https://www.opticsplanet.com/lyman-57sml-and-57gpr-receiver-sights.html

Open sights will not work well as we age. IF you must use them, get glasses made that focus the top of the bifocal at about 4'. Forget about progressive lenses, they are useless for shooting. The front sight is the important thing to focus, the target is suppose to be blurry. Switching focus between the sight and target is not the best way. As we age it becomes impossible. Focus on the front sight, squeeze, follow through. Success will follow

 

[SDHNTR]

With a good peep sight all comes into focus. Get a good front sight too, like a lyman 17.

https://www.opticsplanet.com/lyman-57sml-and-57gpr-receiver-sights.html

Open sights will not work well as we age. IF you must use them, get glasses made that focus the top of the bifocal at about 4'. Forget about progressive lenses, they are useless for shooting. The front sight is the important thing to focus, the target is suppose to be blurry. Switching focus between the sight and target is not the best way. As we age it becomes impossible. Focus on the front sight, squeeze, follow through. Success will follow

No disagreement with anything you said, but the point of my post was to find one that works on an Investarms barrel.

 

[Grenadier1758]

Try a diopter. A simple one can be made from a 1" long piece of black electrical tape with a 1/8" hole punched in it. Place the tape on your shooting glasses. The pin hole acts like the hole in the peep sight.

You can get diopters with adjustable apertures that have a suction cupped arm that attach to your shooting glasses.

 

[Mossback]

With a good peep sight all comes into focus. Get a good front sight too, like a lyman 17.

https://www.opticsplanet.com/lyman-57sml-and-57gpr-receiver-sights.html

Open sights will not work well as we age. IF you must use them, get glasses made that focus the top of the bifocal at about 4'. Forget about progressive lenses, they are useless for shooting. The front sight is the important thing to focus, the target is suppose to be blurry. Switching focus between the sight and target is not the best way. As we age it becomes impossible. Focus on the front sight, squeeze, follow through. Success will follow

The Lyman 17 and 57SML is the only option I have found. The site I was looking at said specifically that it fit my TC .54cal Hawken and a few more. Should be one of my next purchases. Originally I was wanting one of those vintage Hi-Lux for it but there wasn't any base options for it.

 

[Mossback]

The Lyman 17 and 57SML is the only option I have found. The site I was looking at said specifically that it fit my TC .54cal Hawken and a few more. Should be one of my next purchases. Originally I was wanting one of those vintage Hi-Lux for it but there wasn't any base options for it.

FitsLyman Deerstalker and Trade Rifles
Thompson/Center Hawken Rifles and almost all Hawken-style replica rifles

 

[sqqy14]

Here's a great sight from Williams:
https://shop.williamsgunsight.com/ecommerce/p/fphawken-001340

 

[Mossback]

Here's a great sight from Williams:
https://shop.williamsgunsight.com/ecommerce/p/fphawken-001340

Im curious as to whether either one is historically correct or just great upgrades...

 

[Mossback]

Im curious as to whether either one is historically correct or just great upgrades...

Apparently, in the "Jim Gordon" collection, there are original hawkens with various types of peep sights as well as a few pistol grips, like on the Long Range model of the Trapdoor rifle. So the idea, according to the source, has been around since the 1500s but not popularized on hawkens or other rifles until the late 1800s.

So my question is still unanswered for reenactment purposes????

 

[SDHNTR]

Here's a great sight from Williams:
https://shop.williamsgunsight.com/ecommerce/p/fphawken-001340

Will it screw onto an investarms hawken without drilling?

 

[Mossback]

Will it screw onto an investarms hawken without drilling?

Probably have to get the hole spacing, id like to know that as well.

 

[Mossback]

Probably have to get the hole spacing, id like to know that as well.

1.25". So if anyone has an investarm, we'd like to know.

 

[rcscott30]

I have Williams f.p. Hawken rear sight and a Lyman 17 front globe sight on my great plains hunter. The trick with the Williams rear sight is getting the right elevation to match the front sight. For the life in me, I can't find a aftermarket adapter like the one that comes with the Lyman.

 

[Mossback]

I have Williams f.p. Hawken rear sight and a Lyman 17 front globe sight on my great plains hunter. The trick with the Williams rear sight is getting the right elevation to match the front sight. For the life in me, I can't find a aftermarket adapter like the one that comes with the Lyman.

Damn! I've never seen a spacer or shim for tang sights. I've always read that one has to get a shorter front sight.

 

[rcscott30]

You can get a lower front sight, but I went with a front globe sight for the inserts. They only go so low....

 

[rcscott30]

Are there any aftermarket peeps or fiber optics available for these rifles? I can’t see the factory sights anymore to save my life. Just a fuzzy blur.

I bought this one and it doesn’t fit. Anything else?

https://muzzle-loaders.com/products/williams-fire-sight-set-cabelas-hawken-muzzleloader-ia70134

I have a similar setup on my Kentucky rifle. Rear sight is mounted next to the hammer.

 

[rcscott30]

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005989098?pid=278970

On a investarms rifle, it probably has European dovetails, so you would have do do some filing. Is that your problem?

 

[Mossback]

Here's a great sight from Williams:
https://shop.williamsgunsight.com/ecommerce/p/fphawken-001340

Does anyone know the bore height of the peep hole on the Williams FP?

 

[rcscott30]

.45 at lowest 1.10 at highest elevation and base measures around .20
These are in inches but keep in mind the curvature of your tang too.

 

[Mossback]

I have Williams f.p. Hawken rear sight and a Lyman 17 front globe sight on my great plains hunter. The trick with the Williams rear sight is getting the right elevation to match the front sight. For the life in me, I can't find a aftermarket adapter like the one that comes with the Lyman.