Early 18th century German flintlock gun

[hawkeye1755]

Early 18th century German flintlock gun, signed by Andreas Gans in Augspurg, caliber 15 mm, length 126 cm.

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[windwalker_au]

undertaker that is a very nice looking rifle sort of jager style.
Bernie :thumbsup:

 

[Roy]

:thumbsup: like that partial buttplate... and look how far up the barrel the transition is to the oct to round.

For people like me that can not think in Metric its overall lenght is 49.6" and its about a .60 cal

 

[paulvallandigham]

Thank you for these pictures, Undertaker. I can see the " paternity " of the later longrifles made in Pennsylvania in this gun. Reduce the diameter and caliber of the barrel, reduce the width and thickness of the stock, to lighten the gun, and you have the Pennsylvania long rifle of the late 18th century, for sure.

 

[Mike Brooks]

This is a fowling gun. The barrel is Spanish, more than likely.
I like the toe plate. :thumbsup:

 

[hawkeye1755]

This is a fowling gun. The barrel is Spanish, more than likely.
I like the toe plate. :thumbsup:

Yip Mike, wrong thread. :redface:
And as Roy said: ..look how far up the barrel the transition is to the oct to round.

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[Blizzard of '93]

nice gun, I wondered if it was a smoothy. :thumbsup:

 

[Mike Brooks]

nice gun, I wondered if it was a smoothy. :thumbsup:

Probably , if it was rifled it would have had a rear sight. Some of these were straight rifled for boar hunting, but they had a rear sight.

 

[Vaino]

Don't know much asre German guns but that sure is a prominent cheekpiece....nearly looks like it might be difficult to get the head into shooting position?.....Fred

 

[Stophel]

That is a NICE cheekpiece! :wink:

1770's I'd say.

 

[hawkeye1755]

nice gun, I wondered if it was a smoothy. :thumbsup:

Probably , if it was rifled it would have had a rear sight. Some of these were straight rifled for boar hunting, but they had a rear sight.

I think it is a smoothie.Take a closer look.

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[Trench]

Does it look to anyone else that the trigger guard is carved out of the stock? Pretty neat.

 

[Mike Brooks]

Does it look to anyone else that the trigger guard is carved out of the stock? Pretty neat.

The trigger guard is wood, but it is a separate piece from the stock.

 

[jdixon]

Nice pictures - these helped me answer a question I had. I am presently doing a Jaeger build, Paul Poser model. The lock on the Poser that I am using for reference stood out rather dramtically from the stock. This looked stange as many American guns have locks that are mounted just slightly out of the stock. Yet I see on this one that the lock plate is, like the Poser, standing out from the stock. Is this traditional for the Jaegers to have their locks placed such?

 

[paulvallandigham]

YOu might also notice that the bottom of the cock will pivot out over the lock mortise. If the lock had been seated flush with the stock, there is some likelihood that it might rub against the cock's inside and slow the hammerfall, or break out wood at the bottom of the lock mortise. :thumbsup:

 

[Mike Brooks]

Nice pictures - these helped me answer a question I had. I am presently doing a Jaeger build, Paul Poser model. The lock on the Poser that I am using for reference stood out rather dramtically from the stock. This looked stange as many American guns have locks that are mounted just slightly out of the stock. Yet I see on this one that the lock plate is, like the Poser, standing out from the stock. Is this traditional for the Jaegers to have their locks placed such?

All locks are supposed to be inlet this way. This is why it is so important to study originals instead of contemporary guns.

 

[Parzifal]

I love it,
Nice big lock , and the engravings...Nice!

 

[Stophel]

That's it exactly. The Italians would carve the triggerguards out of wood, and this is in imitation of that. Except that the Italians would often (always?) carve the guard directly from the wood of the stock and it is totally integral!

 

[romeoh]

Does it look to anyone else that the trigger guard is carved out of the stock? Pretty neat.

The trigger guard is wood, but it is a separate piece from the stock.

I wonder if there is an extra word in english for that?
In german there is one - "Kapuzinerschäftung"
Translated right away that would be "capuchin stocked"
Don´t ask me about the origin of the german term, could be from the capuchin-monk order but I have no info on that. :surrender:

 

[Stophel]

I have no idea how my response to Romeoh got placed ahead of his post.

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