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Guess you'd call my assembly of factory-built Lymans and Cabelas all intolerable - they're just oozing historical incorrectness, but they're mine, paid for, and I enjoy shooting them.

Intolerable?

Guess that would be the portly ladies. I'm no slim jim myself, but female pudginess ain't for me.

And fat women with guns - scary to me - just like clowns ...
 
hanshi said:
I don't criticize any traditional ML.

I go one step further. I never criticize my buds who hunt with inlines, or their guns. I value them as hunting pards and will accept them as they come.

Funny thing. I'm batting 1,000 in conversions to traditional. Once they've been around traditionals, they figure out the big companies and corporate magazines have been lying to them. Traditionals are no harder to clean and no less effective. Plus they're a whole lot more fun and cheaper to shoot at the range.

Big difference up here- Scopes are not allowed in dedicated muzzleloader hunts. Period. Take away the scopes, and the inlines have zero advantage while being lots more expensive to shoot.

If I'm to draw a line, it's scopes on muzzleloaders during muzzleloader seasons. Outlaw them, and inlines will go the way of the dinosaur. No reason to get my pants into my crack about inlines up here, because they just don't last once guys get around traditionals.
 
well said... I wouldn't have an inline, a plastic stock, or any kind of glass on a flintlock ...

you can if you want; I wouldn't say anything - just don't expect me to come to your defense if people make fun of you.

my two cents worth
 
mattybock said:
What can you not tolerate?
ANYBODY who exhibits a holier than thou attitude over others choices for brands of equipment / techniques they use them with.
 
I don't have the mindset of not tolerating things that other folks do. Of course safety violations are another issue. I may not like what I see simply because it is not to my taste. But, if it is what the other fellow likes.....okay. I have seen a lot of things from the ridiculous to the sublime in the hands of reenactors or just muzzleloading enthusiasts. When I was doing Civil War reenacting, I have been to events where people would show up wearing a Hollywood kepi, a blue or gray jacket and blue jeans. I sure wouldn't do that but I guess everybody has to start somewhere. I also don't care for modern inline rifles and would never buy one but lots of folks like them. To each his own. My advice to you is that if someone wants to sell you something that is offensive to your eye, just don't buy it. But as long as the other guy is shooting something that he likes and is probably proud of, let him go and have his fun and you have your fun with whatever you have. Who knows, I may just happen onto you sometime and find what you are shooting to be an eyesore to me but it behooves me to just keep my mouth shut and let you enjoy your toys. There are a lot of rendezvous that require that everything be period correct. I don't have a complete period correct outfit for those events so I just don't go. I don't hate them for excluding me by virtue of my not having the necessary clothing and gear. They have a right to do their thing. I am to the rendezvous crowd what the blue jean guys were to Civil War reenacting. So I just need to find a place that allows me to show up in what I have. Life just works better that way. :thumbsup: :hatsoff:
 
galamb said:
I really don't care what you shoot or how you shoot it.

My rifles are mine because I like them, not because someone has "approved".

What I do find irritating is a fella dressed up in "new looking period garb", giving their best impression of 200 years ago with even PC stitching and they are picking apart another's rifle because this screw is out of line etc.

Yet, when you look at their rifle, which is rust browned, worn in the right places and has that 200 year old patina you have to wonder.

If you are supposedly re-enacting 200 years ago, wouldn't the gun look "NEW"???????

Back in the 1700's I can't see someone walking into Dickert's or Armstrong's gun shop and asking for a rifle that looked 200 years old.

(just my pet peeve)

Couldn't have said it better myself. The only person I have to be better than is myself.
 
galamb said:
I really don't care what you shoot or how you shoot it. ]
Mooman76 said:
My rifles are mine because I like them, not because someone has "approved".
The only person I have to be better than is myself.
Exactly...there's always a sprinkling of those types in any group...and on all forums too.
There's the group who puts down mass produced muzzleloaders...then there's the group who puts down TVM muzzleloaders
A dead giveaway is they're all "talk"...keyboard cowboys...repeating what they read in other posts, but no actual accomplishments of their own.

Similar to reenacting comparisons, my measure is taking game with patched balls out of Flintlocks similar to the way the settlers did...years of getting it done with T/C Hawken Flintlocks...then years of getting it done with guns built by TVM...if somebody else's 100% PC/HC Flintlock takes more game than I do because it's more PC/HC then they need to post up all the photos of game taken and explain how & why...otherwise it's just :yakyak:
 
Thankfully I live in a remote area :wink: I wear what I have to hunt in,(non P/C H/C) I use weapons that the lock is on the side,load from the muzzle.
Now I might not ever be invited to a P/C H/C event, But then again,matters not. I am a hunter,not a re-enactor,and in my 40+ years behind a smokepole,I have never been bi###ed out by a critter for not being period correct :blah:
 
deer tend not to be snooty. :grin:

another thing - when a beautiful and affordable gun (like cabela's blue ridge long rifle a long time ago), doesn't come in a left handed version, or when it does it's $50 more. :cursing:
 
I agree on the left hand thing. It's actually what got me started building, couldn't find the rifle I wanted in left hand. Other than that, shoot what you want.
 
mtmike said:
in my 40+ years behind a smokepole,I have never been bi###ed out by a critter for not being period correct :blah:
But even when you get all camoflaged up to look just like a leaf pile, some wisenheimer squirrel will spot you and start the war cry, "Two-legged idiot up the tree...NOW HEAR THIS...two-legged idiot up the tree!"! Just ask how I know! :doh: :rotf:
 
"Illigitimus non carborundum", or however it's spelled. Try to be more mellow in your old age and let the idiots go pound sand! :wink: :haha:
 
I try and actually am on some things and am more mello but other things put me on edge. I'm changing jobs at work. Getting stagnated where I am and I am hoping to mello back out some.
Like Clint said, old men should get more mellow and worldly with age.
 
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