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Yeah I know I tend to break things alot. I'd like atleast SOME wood working experience b4 dropping 1k

Yeah man it's crazy I may get a cheap rifle kit but I REALLY want something for shooting geese
Get a rifle kit with an easily removable breech plug (ie, NOT a CVA percussion where it is all drilled together with the drum etc. as well)

Build it up and keep an eye out for a second barrel, of if kit cheap enough just buy 2 to start with. Have second barrel drilled out to reasonable diameter smoothie (reasonable will depend on across-the-flats measurement, etc). Swap rifle and shotgun barrels as desired, or complete the other kit so you have one of each.
 
I don't think the Kibler Colonial would be a satisfactory wing shooting gun. It's going to be on the heavy side! Chambers has a nice fowler kit but once again, it's not going to be a breeze to build.

I think your best bet is to watch for one for sale or have a reputable builder make one for you.
 
I don't think the Kibler Colonial would be a satisfactory wing shooting gun. It's going to be on the heavy side! Chambers has a nice fowler kit but once again, it's not going to be a breeze to build.

I think your best bet is to watch for one for sale or have a reputable builder make one for you.
It is not suitable for wing shooting imo. I use mine for small game and turkey. With the small payload and no choke it is a close-range affair.
 
Others may balk and I do not own one but I have seen them at Dixie Gunworks, that is the Pedersoli Indian Trade Gun. They do come as a kit gun. Wish you the best of luck for what ever you go with.
 
I need a gun kit that I can start my gunsmithing journey with. Something cheap but not manure. I've seen the kibler kits and they are beautiful but I don't wanna ruin something like that with my shotty work. I've seen some cheaper kits but they are all 50cal deer rifles. Btw I'm not really looking for one of you to sell me one really I'm looking for a website or whatever I can goto. But I'm not opposed either I guess.
Check out Pecatonica, might get there for under $700.
http://www.longrifles-pr.com/northwesttradegun.shtml
 
I’m working on a Pedersoli Bess carbine kit, it’s pretty fun and not complicated at all, some sanding and fitting and if you want some improvements to shape. Not hard at all. But not very cheap.
 
As to skills, I had experience carving ducks and making bows, '0" experience making or working on guns, I learned these skills along the way.

From trying to teach bow building to the rank and file, I found out there are three camps that can't make a bow; the first are the guys so afraid of failure that they won't ever start, the others are heavy handed and attack a bow stave instead of being able gently finesse it into a bow. This second group can't or won't follow instructions and have to try to do the work "their way". The third are guys that don't find hours at the bench enjoyable and get bored and quit. I love wood shaping and can do it for hours on end, watching those golden curls of oasge come up with my scraper exhilarates me.

I suspect the above limitations would apply to gun building as well.
 
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