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skypilot39b 
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skypilot39b
02-09-18 06:44 PM - Post#1668614    


So I was talking to one of my friend's sons about shooting and rifling and smooth bore and showing him some balls that I had cast and he noticed the sprue and asked about it and we got to talking about flight characteristics. He decided we need to have a mould that has baseball stitching into the cast and then different loads in different barrels could do curve balls and sliders and fastballs....it made for a fun discussion

 
necchi 
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necchi
02-09-18 08:23 PM - Post#1668635    

    In response to skypilot39b

Smart kid
But you forgot to tell him you have to grab the ball the same way each time before you "throw it".
aka; patched ball seated on a powder charge.
JohnT
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ohio ramrod 
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02-11-18 05:22 PM - Post#1668931    

    In response to skypilot39b

Actually many long range shooters refer to"curve ball effect" of the rifling. Modern shooters use the term :"spin drift".

 
jdw276 
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jdw276
02-11-18 05:27 PM - Post#1668932    

    In response to ohio ramrod

I thought when I cast and the first few have the wrinkle layer look that those are for shooting around trees? I practice with them and they always seem to shoot right of center on paper as I am a lefty.

 
smo 
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smo
02-11-18 05:50 PM - Post#1668935    

    In response to jdw276

No problem just turn them over before loading that should bring them back on center!
Good Luck & Good Shootin'
Smo


 
Mooman76 
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02-11-18 08:18 PM - Post#1668960    

    In response to smo

Some like to put dimples in lead balls. They claim they shoot better although never proven.

 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
02-11-18 08:51 PM - Post#1668965    

    In response to Mooman76

Comparing baseball to roundball ballistics is certainly more interesting than baseball...


 
GoodCheer 
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GoodCheer
02-12-18 05:29 AM - Post#1668994    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

There was a large bore flintlock shown in a post here once upon a time that had some sort of peep on it with multiple holes. The holes were not in a vertical line but in progression curved up and to the left. Made me wonder how far that rear sight was regulated for.

 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
02-12-18 08:54 AM - Post#1669013    

    In response to GoodCheer

Was it a wall or fortress gun?


 
Spence10 
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02-12-18 10:57 AM - Post#1669040    

    In response to GoodCheer

  • GoodCheer Said:
There was a large bore flintlock shown in a post here once upon a time that had some sort of peep on it with multiple holes. The holes were not in a vertical line but in progression curved up and to the left.


Was that a flip-up rear peep? There was one such posted by Claude in this thread, but he never provided any info about the gun being large bore or anything else. It was "from 1670."

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid...

Spence


 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
02-12-18 04:23 PM - Post#1669081    

    In response to Spence10

I think that sight was mis-drilled....I'd also like to see this curveball sight affect take place on real paper downrange.


 
fleener 
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02-12-18 05:19 PM - Post#1669085    

    In response to ohio ramrod

When I was in Australia shooting in October I had problems with my rifling not spinning in the right direction for being in the Southern Hemisphere.

Fleener

 
Spence10 
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02-12-18 06:38 PM - Post#1669095    

    In response to fleener

  • fleener Said:
When I was in Australia shooting in October I had problems with my rifling not spinning in the right direction for being in the Southern Hemisphere.


Turn around and shoot in the opposite direction and you'll be OK.

Spence


 
Zonie 
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Zonie
02-12-18 06:50 PM - Post#1669096    

    In response to skypilot39b

Making fast balls just requires more powder and a slider is easy too. Just load 10 grains of powder and aim high.

The curve ball isn't likely, even with baseball stitching on the ball.

Curve balls are thrown with a twist of the wrist so they are spinning along the balls vertical axis.

That would be hard to do even shooting a smoothbore.
Just Jim...



 
fleener 
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02-12-18 07:20 PM - Post#1669099    

    In response to Spence10

Spence

where were you in Oct, when I needed the help?

Fleener

 
Walks with fire 
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02-13-18 03:46 AM - Post#1669126    

    In response to fleener

It has been said to load with sprue up with a cast ball and I also read somewhere that the ball in flight will rotate so that the heavy side moves to the rear of the ball. I have also noticed that there is some spin drift in the direction of barrel twist at 100 yard target. I have both left and right slow twist ball barrels.

In research of longer range round ball shooting I found the real issue is the transition area where the ball goes from super sonic to sub sonic. The faster the twist rate the more disruption in the flight path. Truth or fiction I am not sure. I am quite sure a good deal of knowledge from our forefathers has been lost over time.

 
skypilot39b 
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skypilot39b
02-13-18 10:58 AM - Post#1669177    

    In response to Walks with fire

I thought there might be some fun with this topic. I particularly enjoyed Australia....

 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
02-13-18 12:36 PM - Post#1669202    

    In response to Zonie

Magnus affect.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_effect


 
Spence10 
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02-13-18 02:19 PM - Post#1669234    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

Coriolis force...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_force

Spence

 
Heelerau 
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02-13-18 02:56 PM - Post#1669244    

    In response to fleener

Fleener, some photos in the current SSAA magazine competition section shewing all the teams that took part in the Long Range World Champs at Montarto in SA. PM me and I will send you the magazine

Cheers

Gordon

 
fleener 
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02-13-18 06:48 PM - Post#1669278    

    In response to Heelerau

Gordon

sent you a PM. Thanks.

They took quite a few pictures of my Rigby, they use any of them?

Thanks

Fleener

 
GoodCheer 
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GoodCheer
02-13-18 06:51 PM - Post#1669279    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

  • Colorado Clyde Said:
Was it a wall or fortress gun?



Seems to me it was speculated to be a buffalo gun and was .7 or bigger, something along those lines. And for some reason it seems there was a French influence of sorts in there too. Any yall reccomember something approximating that collection of descriptors?

 
Heelerau 
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02-13-18 08:56 PM - Post#1669295    

    In response to fleener

No by the looks but quite a spiel about it and yourself, group shots of all the teams but no names which is a pest. Will post it off in a day or two.

Cheers

Gordon

 
m-g willy 
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02-14-18 11:36 AM - Post#1669343    

    In response to skypilot39b

I patch a ball with a full patch, then cut a patch in 1/2 and add it to one side of the ball before loading,,It causes the ball to curve,,Works great for shooting deer standing behind trees.


 
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