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Range Report - Pedersoli Ky Bounty Hunter Pistol

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jdixon

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I purchased as a kit and built during the off (hunting) season last year a Pedersoli Kentucky bounty pistol. After a post of mine last month which showed the gun laying atop a fresh deer kill,
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several here said they wanted more information about it. So here are my less than professional observations about it.

Specifics about the gun itself
Barrel 16 ½”, 1:18 twist ”“ 12 lands and grooves
Overall length 21 ½”
Caliber .50
Weight Empty 3.4 lbs
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This gun as a kit, ran around $300.00 U.S. There are still some kits out there but, they seem to be scarce. It is unclear if this pistol in kit form is still in production ”“ at least one source ”“ Jedediah Starr ”“ shows the kits as discontinued.

Since my use for this gun was mostly for hunting, I did some modification to the original design. The simple lever trigger was replaced by a Track of the Wolf single set trigger. Trigger pull runs around 2.5 lbs. To get this new trigger into place, some modification had to be made to the stock trigger guard. The butt cap on the grip is an add on just for looks. On the back of the grip I added a steel plate. This steel “shoe” covers that area of the stock that takes all of the abuse during loading. Since this gun would often be reloaded in the field, the idea was to put a plate there that could be pushed against the ground, tree stand, tree or what ever surface was available, and not leave marks on the gun. Though I am not certain that I like the look, it does do what I intended it to do. Finally, the blue on the lock and barrel was removed and the barrel filed and worked to get the considerable milling marks out of it, smoothing it down. Both the barrel and lock assembly were then hot browned. This gives I think a more authentic look to the gun. For carrying while hunting, I had a local saddle maker put together the flap style shoulder holster you see here.

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Ignition is provided by a Pedersoli lock, however I have not been able to find a model number for it. It is similar to their #S-410 flintlock, but is smaller. The lock is very fast and provides reliable ignition. It is very easy on flints. I am still running my first flint in the gun now with more than a 100 rounds and/or strikes. One problem with this particular lock is that the hammer in half cock is too close to the closed frizzen. With no flint in the jaws, the top plate of the vise actually touches the frizzen and keeps it from closing all of the way. The smallest flints that I could find ½” square, still had to be trimmed off of the back as well as placed in a notched leather to get them to fit.
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The angle of strike by the hammer is such that if the flint is not properly positioned, the top jaw of the vice will contact the frizzen throwing it open and the flint will never make contact. This hammer may have to be heated and bent slightly to get it in proper position, I just have not gotten around to that yet.

Loading and Shooting ”“ I have run charges as high as 75 grains in this gun with no problem. It seems to do the best with charges of FFFg around 50 ”“ 60 grains. After dropping the powder charge I am finding that I have to work the powder down into the touch hole channel. The touch hole appears to be through the breech plug and to get powder to the mouth of the touch hole liner you have to provide assistance, it will not usually get there on its own. However, I must stay on loads where I have picked the vent and felt no powder, the gun still goes off as rapidly as the times that the powder is present at the vent.

I have seen some complaints from others that this gun is hard to load w/ a .490 and a .015” patch. Pistols, just because they are smaller, are more difficult to load in general than a long rifle I have found. But, other than that it has not been my experience that this gun is particularly hard to load at all. With .018” Wally World pillow ticking, unwashed, smeared with some Wonder Lube 1000 and a .490 Horandy swagged ball, it takes a bit of effort to get it started otherwise, the patch and ball work down the barrel with acceptable ease. I usually start the ball with a short starter and tap it into place with a light wooden mallet. It just seems like it is less stress on the gun itself to do this. The fit is sufficiently tight here that swabbing between each shot is a must. This is something that I always do anyway so I do not see it as a bother. Of course, a pistol loading stand is a must with any muzzleloading pistol.
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Power ”“ This is where that long barrel shows its worth. With a 60 grain load of Swiss 3F, the Bounty Hunter is pushing the .490 round ball out at 1477 fps at the muzzle. That converts to some 820 fpe ”“ respectable for a flintlock pistol. That kind of energy gives you whitetail-taking capabilities out to 60 yrds or so.

Accuracy ”“ the long barrel on the Bounty Hunter does indeed give you the capability of reaching out to impressive distances for any handgun, let alone a flintlock muzzleloader. The photos below are from a recent day at the range.
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Obviously, unless you have over developed arm muscles, you will not be able to competitively shoot this using the single hand rules of match shooting. The Bounty Hunter is so front heavy it requires a two handed grip or a bench rest.

Overall, I am happy with the gun. It gives me an added dimension to my flintlock deer hunting and in the off-season, shooting 100-yard targets with it is just a whole lot of fun.
 
Thanks for the range report JR . That pistol sure is a long one , very cool ! I have a Pedersoli "Queen Anne" pistol , and although the lock is different than yours , mine has the same problem with the flint/frizzen clearence . The 5/8" square BEF's work OK , but the regular 5/8" flints are a little long but will work if I punch a hole in the leather (I use 4oz suede scraps) .
 
:grin: Great report and very thorough---I built the Pedersoli Kentucky from kit and I find that the accuracy is excellent from a rest at 25 & 50 as well. The trigger on the Kentucky is a brute, how difficult was fitting that new trigger :confused: That is an idea I have toyed with for a while. I will also bet you did a bit of filing on that rear sight blade as well. Thanks for your efforts for a great post. :thumbsup:
 
Getting the Track single set trigger to fit was a bit of a challenge but, doable. The back end of the trigger mechanism is sunk a full 3/4" or more into the handle of the stock. The trigger is not curved to the degree that the handle is so I had to dig out a lot of wood to get it into the proper position. The trigger guard had to be altered as well. The curl that you find at the back of the standard Kentucky trigger guard, behind the trigger, had to be removed to provide access to the trigger's set screw. It took some time getting the trigger laid in there just so that it tripped the lock every time. The clearences in there are so tight however, that I must first set the trigger before you can cock the hammer. One hint, if it will fit I would go with the Track trigger. I purchased an L&R single set first and got that inletted only to find that it would not work properly. Of course this was after I had filed on it, drilled and taped a tang screw hold into it. :shake: It now resides in my spare parts bin.

As for the sights, yes I filed the front a little, probably took a 1/4" off of it, deepend the notch on the rear some. I have to say that the first day I fired this gun, I had it hitting point of aim at 50 yards after just 7 rounds. I have never been able to sight a gun in as fast I did this one. Each adjustment of the sights took the hit exactly where it should have.
 
Excellant report. Thanks for posting it. That gun has always interested me. I hadn't thought too much about how muzzle heavy it would be, but that does make a lot of sense. It sure looks to be a great shooter.
 
Pasquenel said:
:grin: Great report and very thorough---I built the Pedersoli Kentucky from kit and I find that the accuracy is excellent from a rest at 25 & 50 as well. The trigger on the Kentucky is a brute, how difficult was fitting that new trigger :confused: That is an idea I have toyed with for a while. I will also bet you did a bit of filing on that rear sight blade as well. Thanks for your efforts for a great post. :thumbsup:


YES, For some reasons the trigger pull on Pedersoli's Kentucks ( unlike some of their other guns, is HEAVY. BUT You do NOT have to replace it. SIMPLY "tune it". If you need help, ask.Puffer
 
J.R. GREAT GUN & thanks for the report. I Have a chance to by a kit, & you just "SOLD ME" :thumbsup:

Puffer
 
JR, Long Bbl'd pistols were actually carried in the early 1800s. David Thompson (NWC Explorer, Map Maker, trader etal.) Carried 2 Mortimer pistols, during his exploration & mapping of the Columbia River (1810-1812) These pistols had 18" Bbl.s & were .65 cal. :shocked2:

Puffer
 
Where did you purchase your pistol at? And where do you think I might be able to order one? After seeing your pics and reading your report, I think that one of these would be a great addition to my battery.
 
Bought it from the Possibles Shop - they advertise here on the Forum. This was last fall, don't know if they still have kits in stock or not.
 
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