Zoli "Zouave" Short Rifle

[BP Addict]

This was what was known as a Zouave carbine. I remember seeing them in the Navy Arms catalog back in the early 1970s. They were simply a shorter Zouave rifle, and were intended as a brush gun. They did something similar with the so-called Buffalo gun, which was simply a sporterized Zouave with a half-stock, a wooden ramrod, and checkering at the wrist and forearm. The Zouave carbine was also used by some skirmishers for competition. They are a handy little gun.

I remember the Buffalo Hunter. Navy Arms Founder Val Forgett took it on Safari to Africa. I even had one but ended up changing my mind and selling it.

I was thinking about using this one for hunting, myself. I wish the barrel had a 1-48 twist like the BH, though.

Thanks!

Walt

 

[BP Addict]

This one goes up to 2030........
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That's interesting as my Pietta Remmy Bison Revolver is stamped 2021 on the underside of the barrel and 21 on the frame.

Walt

 

[J.Campbell63]

I have a ransom made ( Lyman on the lock) 1863 Remington. 77 is the date code. Shoots about eight inches high at fifty but holds the group with either 575 or 577 conicals and 65 grains of powder. Have not used P-dex or any BP replacement. I think that means it’s dead on at 300 pretty much.

 

[BP Addict]

Here's the first one I looked at. It was a bit "pricey" for me. I got mine for about $100 less.

Zouave short rifle - Black Powder Rifles & Muzzleloader Rifles at GunBroker.com : 925284713

Thanks!

Walt

 

[concho7]

This one goes up to 2030........
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Thank you for the charts

 

[BP Addict]

Lube is 50/50 beeswax to veggie oil. Accurate as all get out ... but tends to be a safe queen ... as the flintlocks and matchlocks get shot more!
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When you say 50/50, do you mean 1 pound of bee's wax to 16 ounces of oil?

Thanks!

Walt

 

[BP Addict]

I finally took my Zoli Zouave Carbine out today. The targets are self-explanatory. Needless to say, the factory sights are for longer distances. I have an adjustable aperture sight I can mount on the top of the wrist. The Bullet lube was a 50/50 mixture of Beeswax and Vaseline. The patch lube was Bear Grease and Beeswax. I also Tried a liquid patch lube, but it was harder to load!

Walt

 

[BP Addict]

While taking it apart for cleaning, I found a small metal bar sitting in a recess in the wood under the Trigger Guard. I can't figure out what its purpose is.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Walt

 

[hawkeye2]

Ramrod stop

 

[BP Addict]

Ramrod stop

Why do I all of a sudden want to say, duh? It's so obvious now.

Were the original Zouaves like that?

Thanks!

Walt

 

[1971fx]

This was what was known as a Zouave carbine. I remember seeing them in the Navy Arms catalog back in the early 1970s. They were simply a shorter Zouave rifle, and were intended as a brush gun. They did something similar with the so-called Buffalo gun, which was simply a sporterized Zouave with a half-stock, a wooden ramrod, and checkering at the wrist and forearm. The Zouave carbine was also used by some skirmishers for competition. They are a handy little gun.

Zoli Buffalo hunter and J P Murray carbine

 

[chorizo]

The group size out of a .58 will never be smaller than .58. Just saying....

You aren't measuring correctly. You measure center to center of each bullet hole (or more correctly measure from the outside then subtract one bullet diameter from that measurement). You aren't "saying" the right thing.

https://www.winchesterguns.com/support/faq/group-size-measuring.html

 

[dave951]

You aren't measuring correctly. You measure center to center of each bullet hole (or more correctly measure from the outside then subtract one bullet diameter from that measurement). You aren't "saying" the right thing.

https://www.winchesterguns.com/support/faq/group-size-measuring.html

If you measure center to center, yes, if you are measuring hole size, no.

 

[chorizo]

If you measure center to center, yes, if you are measuring hole size, no.

Read the link. A group is measured center to center. We aren't talking about "one shot groups"