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Do you know why they picked September 11th? In the summer of 1683, 300,000 Muslim troops began a siege of Vienna. The fall of Vienna would have left the way clear for the Muslims to invade central Europe. It was the Pasha's goal to take Rome and convert the Basilica there to a Mosque. A little known Polish Leader named Jan Sobieski arrived in Vienna with 14,000 Polish cavalry. Still sadly outnumbered. Sobieski performed a miracle and over night hauled heavy cannon to the top of Mt Kahlenberg. The added elevation allowed the cannons to reach the Muslim camp, but kept defender's cannon out of the reach of the Muslim Artillery. At dawn of September 11, death and terror fell upon the Muslim camp from the cannons on Mt Kahlenberg. The Muslim Troops panicked. The main Polish Cavalry were called Winged Hussars because they wore wings on their shoulders to look like Angels of death.. The vastly outnumbered Polish cavalry rode through the retreating Muslims decimating their numbers. The Pasha was executed for his failure to take the Vatican.
 

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The timing of the Ottoman incursion into Hungary and Austria coincides with founding of Philadelphia and John Ames' work for Penn, traveling through what is now Southern Germany soliciting Quaker converts and/or settlers for the new colony. For years after 1683, the people were taxed to pay for the Germans who assisted in the defense of Vienna. German Quakers refused to pay the tax and the local governments confiscated livestock and possessions for the tax. In addition, Quakers had to pay a tax just for the right to be Quakers. (all people who were not Catholic or Lutheran had to pay a special tax, including Mennonites) With the threat of the recent Muslim approach to Vienna a few hundred miles east, the uncertainty of not knowing whether it would happen again and the special taxes levied on them, the German Quakers started the trek to the New World. Soon followed by Mennonites and others.
 

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(all people who were not Catholic or Lutheran had to pay a special tax, including Mennonites)
Was it that any non-Roman Catholic or non-Lutheran denominations had to pay the special tax OR was it that any pacifist denominations such as The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), and Anabaptists such as Mennonites and Amish etc. had to pay as they would not serve to defend the nation?


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Was it that any non-Roman Catholic or non-Lutheran denominations had to pay the special tax OR was it that any pacifist denominations such as The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), and Anabaptists such as Mennonites and Amish etc. had to pay as they would not serve to defend the nation?


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I know that in Alzey in the Palatinate, the tax went back to the 1650's. My ancestor arrived on the day taxes were assessed in 1654 and was promptly relieved of a cow. The tax/census records of non Lutheran and non Catholic families goes back further. in most areas that are now part of Germany. Not all Anabaptists were pacifists. The German city of Munster was briefly conquered and ruled by some violent Anabaptists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Münster_rebellion
 
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September 11 was not the original planned date. It was the 10th. Circumstances caused it to be delayed a day.
 

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Actually the Charge of The Winged Hussars was the morning of September 12th. They smashed deep into the invading army eventually reaching the command tents and putting most of the army to rout. Another general with a successful tactic ignoring the adjacent mountain...., then the next thing he knew he was riding for his life!


The Initial attack by The Holy Roman League was on the 11th. It was this league that eventually drove the Muslims out of Europe over the next 11 years or so... So September 11 1683 was the beginning of the counter offensive to relieve the Siege of Vienna.

It is said the Tolkein's Charge of the Rohirrim in his fantasy story is based on this charge.

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