Who said the Confederacy is dead ?

[sheriff john]

Some here are old enough to have lived through segregation and remember quite well seeing things such as separate drinking fountains, separate schools, etc. ...and it wasn't only in the "South". Military was segregated well into the 1940's by race. Personally, I'm "color blind". Graduated from a "HBC" (Historically Black College) - Lincoln University with enough credits to have a minor in black history. What we're seeing today is a movement to erase accurate history and replace the whole truth with what some want it to be. Statues are important to put a face with history. They represent real people who left a mark on our story. Tearing them down is just as stupid as erasing their names from books in schools.

"Black History Month" is divisive. So are affirmative action attempts. Both are "racist" - based solely on race. What's needed is "American History Month" if this nation is to ever achieve equality for all. Teach future generations the WHOLE story - because all lives matter.

 

[Relic shooter]

I was fortunate to be educated primarily by WW-2 veterans who fought tyrants & wanted their students to learn about World History. We all learned much about the air, land & sea battles they fought & the many friends they lost to keep America free.
As with most kids of my era I also experienced 'natural' diversity growing up in Alamogordo New Mexico, a small town that was populated by a mix of Blacks, Mexicans, Indians, whites & sons & daughters of captured former Nazi rocket scientist Verner Von Braun.

Today's leftist run educational & judicial systems are the direct result of treasonous anti-American leadership appointments made by leftist politicians' who wanted our children indoctrinated to oppose the freedoms & individual rights America is/was founded upon.

Over the past 80-90 years increasing public apathy has allowed Marxist insiders within our local & state governments to convince many that our public servants are our masters.

*Soon the Marxist Left will launch another much more aggressive move to disarm citizens. Don't be surprised if the knocks at your doors come from
uniformed troops comprising of obedient non-English speaking illegal aliens that were brought here by President Dementia & his Marxist followers.
America survives on the same basis as all Third World Nations, we all get the kind of government we deserve.

I continue to have hope that the majority of sane America's will once again take a firm stand & not surrender our nation to the hostile overthrow underway by openly treasonous leftists & the gestapo style agencies they've created within our own government.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

I grew up a mere 70 miles from the Mason Dixon Line in a rural area. The only 3 Blacks in the entire school District were standouts both in grades and athletics. All 3 got scholarships to college. We would vacation at the Delaware Beach. (a northern state) Back until about 1964, there were separate high schools there, which for the life of me, I could not understand, especially when the blacks I knew were all stars at my school.

There are lessons to be learned from from history that won't be learned if it is erased. In many ways we have gone passed the point of trying to make things equal and a few recent programs have actually established qualifications written to exclude whites for eligibility. For instance there was a pandemic related farm bill which included a special loan program for people of color. ie Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders, etc. Then it was changed to "historically disadvantaged populations" so it was racist without actually mentioning racial differences. My own cable company here in PA, has a special business organization and discount advertising program for minority run businesses. I asked how they can discriminate against white men and got no answer so I filed an eeoc complaint that is now pending.

 

[sheriff john]

One often-missed lesson learned by Confederate soldiers is simple - "No matter how hard you fight, how courageous your fellow soldiers, nor the enormity of personal sacrifice, sometimes the dragon wins."

People everywhere admire the courageous, not necessarily the winner. Whether folklore, novels, or motion pictures portray the lives of Confederate soldiers accurately or not is debatable. The fact that is, though it was obvious from the start of the war, if it went on long enough, the South could not totally conquer the North. Still, they fought on. Which IMHO is why, even today, the Confederate soldier, (not his cause) is fascinating to many of us.

 

[Steve Wagner]

One often-missed lesson learned by Confederate soldiers is simple - "No matter how hard you fight, how courageous your fellow soldiers, nor the enormity of personal sacrifice, sometimes the dragon wins."

People everywhere admire the courageous, not necessarily the winner. Whether folklore, novels, or motion pictures portray the lives of Confederate soldiers accurately or not is debatable. The fact that is, though it was obvious from the start of the war, if it went on long enough, the South could not totally conquer the North. Still, they fought on. Which IMHO is why, even today, the Confederate soldier, (not his cause) is fascinating to many of us.

I agree w that Sheriff J, but by the time the confederates realized that they had to conquer just to be left alone, it was too late. From the beginning, they thought by repulsing the Federal onslaught w substantial defensive victories that Lincoln would accept an armistice. They fought too long on their own turf with this goal in mind and that misreading of the mind of Lincoln was catastrophic for them. If they had gone all in for invasion of the north immediately after 1st Manassas they might have been able too pull it off. Might. Their very limited production capabilities made this a must. By the time the necessity of the Gettysburg confrontation had settled into their minds, the proverbial armistice train had already left the station. In fairness, how could they have known. And what were the chances that Lincoln, by using a selection by attrition could find generals [henchmen really] that were of his same mindset and up to the task of carrying it out. That he was able to cull in [not out] the trifecta of Grant, Sherman and Sheridan was not really imaginable to the Southern mentality. It never occurred to them that such men could be produced by West Point. Try to imagine what might have been if the South had coughed up an ammoral Lee with all the resources of his Union enemies. But of course that man would not be Lee and those that admire him are glad that he was the man that he was. Resources or not. And such a man could never been promoted by the South. This knowledge is gratifying to Southerners and I don't think they would have it any other way. And, not to be disagreeable, but I find the Confederate cause at least as interesting as the soldiers that stood by it. Hard to separate those men from their cause. It is what inspired their bravery. Your point about courage is well taken. SW

 

[zimmerstutzen]

One often-missed lesson learned by Confederate soldiers is simple - "No matter how hard you fight, how courageous your fellow soldiers, nor the enormity of personal sacrifice, sometimes the dragon wins."

People everywhere admire the courageous, not necessarily the winner. Whether folklore, novels, or motion pictures portray the lives of Confederate soldiers accurately or not is debatable. The fact that is, though it was obvious from the start of the war, if it went on long enough, the South could not totally conquer the North. Still, they fought on. Which IMHO is why, even today, the Confederate soldier, (not his cause) is fascinating to many of us.

The incursion into the north was an effort to bring the war to the citizens of the north and resulting political pressure to seek peace. Had the Confederates made it to Lancaster PA, a host of northern industry would have been destroyed, the same as the North was taking great pride in doing in the south.. I live just 7 miles from the Wrightsville Columbia bridge that was burned by Union troops to stop the Confederates from reaching another 10 miles to Lancaster. The Bridge had been defended by green troops and a green Black artillery unit. They were vastly outnumbered and chose wisely to run like H across the bridge and burn it. There was another river crossing 8 miles south, part bridge and part ford as it hopped across the river islands. The story I was told by one really old guy, was that armed civilians faced off from both sides of the river whether to burn the little bridge that crossed the deep part of the river. to an island. The Eastern side afraid the rebs would come there to cross the river. The west side a combination of Southern sympathizers and farmers who depended on that crossing to get their goods, produce and livestock to the railway on the eastern side. When word came that the rebs headed back south west, both sides cooled off and went home. There were only a few old timers who repeat this story. No written reports other than an obscure diary entry by a farmer's wife about a possible fight at Bridgeville. (the location of the bridge going across the canal and to a river island.) that her husband was back home from Bridgeville and Thank God, there was no shooting.

In general, I think Southerner were more courageous. and put up with more adversity. The tactics used of standing facing each other and firing volley after volley into opposing ranks was suicidal.

 

[Eutycus]

My great great great grandfather and his oldest son enlisted. They were immigrants from Poland, not fresh off the boat ,but still fairly new here. Dirt poor farmers who did all the work themselves. Grandpa was already 45 and had 8 kids but he must have seen something in this land worth fighting for.I seriously doubt they enlisted to preserve Slavery.Why would they? They sure didnt own any. Maybe they felt like this new land that they loved and took them in was being invaded and they felt like giving back a little.

 

[BillRob]

As a twelve year-old, and part of a military family, I moved to Charleston, SC in 1972. Everyone was very nice, and the first question they asked was "Are ya a Yank' or a Reb'? I really didn't even really appreciate what that meant, but it seemed like everyone had to know which one they were. I became a Reb' that day - and even though I left Charleston almost fifty years ago, I suppose I've been one ever since.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

As a twelve year-old, and part of a military family, I moved to Charleston, SC in 1972. Everyone was very nice, and the first question they asked was "Are ya a Yank' or a Reb'? I really didn't even really appreciate what that meant, but it seemed like everyone had to know which one they were. I became a Reb' that day - and even though I left Charleston almost fifty years ago, I suppose I've been one ever since.

When I was about 10 or 12, I learned that depending on where you were in town, you could get beat up for being Catholic or Protestant. Jewish kids just got beat up by both groups. I was new to the area and found myself surrounded by a group of slightly older kids that demanded to know where I went to church. I blurted out that I was Zoroastrian a term I heard on the radio a few days earlier.. None of them knew what that was and stood there looking at each other while I made my way into the nearest store for protection. I have heard of places where southern kids still like to hassle yankee transplants.

 

[rusticbob]

I am much more concerned with our NEXT civil war, and what this nation will look like in the aftermath!

 

[user 48702]

When I was about 10 or 12, I learned that depending on where you were in town, you could get beat up for being Catholic or Protestant. Jewish kids just got beat up by both groups. I was new to the area and found myself surrounded by a group of slightly older kids that demanded to know where I went to church. I blurted out that I was Zoroastrian a term I heard on the radio a few days earlier.. None of them knew what that was and stood there looking at each other while I made my way into the nearest store for protection. I have heard of places where southern kids still like to hassle yankee transplants.

Another good one that works, just tell them that your a Pentecostal snake handler and play with rattlesnakes.