What is this?

[dyemaker]

I found it online and I am curious. It is obviously a target rifle but I am not sure if it is Swiss, Slovakian, Czech, or... whatever? Any thoughts on this? I could not translate what little info there was besides it is 15 mm bore. The cheeckpiece is unusual and is part of what leads me to believe it may not be Swiss.

http://slovenskainzercia.sk/x-sk/inz/910/910939-tezka-perkusni-tercovnice-1810-1.jpg

http://slovenskainzercia.sk/x-sk/inz/910/910939-tezka-perkusni-tercovnice-1810-2.jpg

http://slovenskainzercia.sk/x-sk/inz/910/910939-tezka-perkusni-tercovnice-1810-3.jpg

http://slovenskainzercia.sk/x-sk/inz/910/910939-tezka-perkusni-tercovnice-1810-4.jpg

 

[dyemaker]

It appears to be the counterpart to Swiss rifles rifles of the time such as this but I had never seen a stock like that before. Maybe German? The site used a word that means (something unknown to history) but that may be out of context.

http://www.littlegun.info/arme%20suisse/ancien%20artisan/a%20bindschedler%20maenedorf%20gb.htm

 

[dyemaker]

Maybe it is American and/or modern made. The more I think about it the more curious I become. If it were American, what it would be doing in Slovakia I have no clue.

 

[jdkerstetter]

Not saying this one is made in the U.S. but many U.S. muzzle-loaders end up over-seas. Firearms ownership restrictions in some countries make it difficult to own modern arms but are relaxed more on primative ones.

I know one builder who regularly sends guns to Germany and Bob Roller has indicated that most of the locks he builds go to Germany also.

Enjoy, J.D.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

There seems to be a rise in popularity of hobby muzzleloading in the former eastern block countries as well as their own peculiar form of CAS catching on in scattered pockets. You tube has lots of videos.

The rifle does seem to have some attributes of the Tyrolean muzzle loading target rifles. The butt plate and modified fish belly underside of the butt stock are on one of my original Austrian target rifles.

 

[TFoley]

Maybe it is American and/or modern made. The more I think about it the more curious I become. If it were American, what it would be doing in Slovakia I have no clue.

The site on which this gun is shown is Slovakian.

If anybody can link me to the original site, my next-door neighbour is from Brno.

The gun looks extraordinarily German - even Swiss, particularly with that back-sight.
I'm betting that it is actually Tyrolean. I am not convinced that anybody in the USA makes rifling like that these days, nor is the lock a good fit - perhaps it is a conversion to percussion. I'm betting that it is around 150-60 years old. To me, it certainly looks it.

tac

 

[dyemaker]

I cannot post the link as it is an auction site. Using google translator instead; I have this description...

Heavy-Target-Rifle-1810

A heavy percussive butt rye 15mm beautiful original condition. 150cm. Set trigger, horn, nice (sbírkový) piece.

...The word in parenthesis translates to (collection) in the google translator , but again it may be out of context.

 

[dyemaker]

Thanks for the input. Regardless it is a different kinda cat for sure. It got me to thinking... which is a good thing.

 

[dyemaker]

if it was a flintock then perhaps it is a rifle used by Tyrolean Schutzen against Napolean. I searched for photos and paintings but came up with nothing.This may be far fetched tho. :haha:

 

[Pigman]

That may mean collectable.

Foster From Flint

 

[dyemaker]

This is a silmilar target rifle that I came across. It is likely German. The mountain man mistakenly calls it a jaeger rifle. It has 18 grooves instead of 12. This type of rifle interests me alot. More so than the Swiss rifles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnUQ8p_n9SI&feature=player_embedded