Unknown .45 cal toy/repair

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  1. Nov 2, 2019 #1

    Blogman

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    I found another princess needing some love. I'm gonna give her a going over and continue what I find. Here's the first pics, more to come later.
    Yeah, I know, camera still sucks. 20191102_144833 (2).jpg 20191102_144916 (2).jpg
     
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    Kansas Jake

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    Nice find.
     
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    Blogman, can you tell us a little more about it? Like the maker and barrel length? Kind of looks like a Kentucky style pistol. Thanks
     
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    Right now you know what I know. All I can find right now is.....
    Cal .45 505 or....
    Cal .45 SOS.

    *edit* It's Cal .45 505

    Ok boys, I'm going in. Be back later (hopefully) with a good find and pics.
     
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    So after looking with Google and such I'm still lost. Anybody able to interject with the # 23 included? I'm assuming it's a kit but even then makers brand them. I don't know and She can't tell me anymore. 20191102_185900 (2).jpg 20191102_185919.jpg
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    No maker, nothing
    Barrel. 9' & 7/8" A bit of surface rust, no pitting.
    Everything else ya can see.
     
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    I'm going to say Spain . maybe early jukar . but that's only a guess.
     
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    I'm throwing out this is a one off build with parts some one had on hand. The hooked breech and 505 are the real teasers for me. It is a real mystery and a very nice pistol. Have fun with it.
     
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    The 23 is an assembly number to match the barrel to the stock and lock. Because of that and the finish on the wood I doubt it's a kit gun. Lug for the wedge is welded to the barrel. The lack of proof marks stumps me. It looks to be a decent quality gun for an inexpensive 70's (?) import. Strip the varnish, stain and oil the stock and it would be quite attractive. Does that half cock notch hold?
     
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    Yes the half cock holds, nice lock action and light trigger. I will be getting her fancied up. It's heavy for what it seems, everything's tight, no wiggle and the dings will sand out nicely. She'll be my $90 princess without a name.
     
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    Would ya happen to recommend a stripper, I forgot about the checkering.
     
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    Help please?
    Yes it's does look like a Kentucky but it's wedge style, not pinned.
    Google and Alexa is no help so ya's think it is homemade for the most part?
    If I do start refinishing it how do I go about the checkering?
     
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    505 appears to be a serial number, so I doubt it is home made. If European, it should have a proof mark somewhere.(?)

    ADK Bigfoot
     
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    Nothing. Nadda. Ziltch
     
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    I like to re-work pistols like that. Brown the bbl., strip & re-finish stock, tighten and go over the whole thing. Thanks for posting, looks like you'll have fun with this. Appears to be .40 or .45 cal.
     
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    A good stripper is CITRUS STRIP. Takes old varnish and stain off pretty quickly. Be careful though. I found that gloves are a must and standard surgical type gloves ( the common blue type )will not hold up to it. You need a better type that is acid resistent and make sure you are well ventilated.
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    I've used Citri Strip a lot. I do it outside where I can hang the item up; the drips, etc., are messy. (Newspapers to catch 'em). Have done at least three stocks, wipe with damp cloth to clean; soaking will warp wood. There's spray and bottle, spray is handier. If stock has modern "plastic" type finish, takes a couple or three treatments. Eye protection, too!
     
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    Cool find. I look all over around here for those fixer uppers with no luck. Can't wait to see how she turns out.
     
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    Hello Blogman,

    I agree with Bigfoot, it looks like a production gun. The number 23 is a production number to keep parts matched up. Looks like it would make a nice side arm.

    AntiqueSledMan.
     

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