Uberti or Pietta 1861 Navy?

[Bad Karma]

Amongst the (many) regrets I have is not buying a 2nd gen Colt back when they were for sale. I had plenty of opportunities and just wouldn’t or couldn’t cough up the extra dollars. If I just had a 2nd gen 1851….

There’s one up on the classifieds right now… just saying… I do like spending other peoples money ;-)

 

[TDM]

There’s one up on the classifieds right now… just saying… I do like spending other peoples money ;-)

Yep, saw that one with the gold inlay. And with all the extras the price wasn’t terribly bad at all. But my Wife takes my eccentricities fairly well, I don’t want to find out what that limit is just now.

 

[Stantheman86]

I just wish a company like USFA would start up , and make a high quality, American made Colt percussion clone with 100% proper fitting.

Sure they'd cost $1500- 2000 but they would sell.

 

[Stantheman86]

Pietta uses a machined flat 1860 frame for the Dance Brothers revolver and the barrel is the same as the .44 Navy.

Uberti stopped using plain cylinders in the Leech and Rigdon

They're both slipping on the Confederate repros but basically, you can get a gem or a lemon from either manufacturer.

 

[GYJ]

The only hard facts I have with this , are that the metal polishing is definitely better on my Cimarron Walker vs the 2 I got from Sportsman's Guide. Mechanically and internally they appear the same, my "regular " Ubertis are perfectly timed and slick too and my Uberti 1851 Navy has been trouble free for almost 15 years and 1000s of rounds.

So at least it used to be, that Uberti made the guns cosmetically better

Cimarron used to offer the Premium finishes like the Charcoal Blue and "Old West" finish but apparently the Old West finish wasn't popular and they stopped offering it.

Like I said, it was true in the `80's and maybe part of the `90's but not since. Any differences observed are going to boil down to variations between individual guns or batches of guns. It's worth pointing out that the only two I've ever had a problem with were Cimarrons.

Cimarron still offers the "original finish" and other importers offer it as the "old west" finish. I have three such guns. Same for the charcoal blue, which is actually nitre blue. One thing Cimarron offers that some others don't, are options to special order engraved guns, "US finish" guns and custom grips. That is all done after the fact by stateside subcontractors, not by Uberti. The basic guns are all the same.

I just wish a company like USFA would start up , and make a high quality, American made Colt percussion clone with 100% proper fitting.

Sure they'd cost $1500- 2000 but they would sell.

I would certainly get in line for a few. Or especially a USFA-level unmentionable conversion.

 

[Bad Karma]

Put me down for a Long cylinder conversion in 45 por favor!

 

[nick_1]

I have 3 cylinders for my pietta Bison and now want to pick up a standard 1858 pietta which will then give me 4 cylinders more firepower than a glock wait... don't i have one of those plastic things somewheres....

The fit, finish and timing on my Pietta seems excellent.

 

[Soliderity]

Very nice revolver, Uberti is the only maker I will buy anymore, not to bash Pietta but all I will say, is I HAD about 8 Piettas at one point or another, now I have 0 and still have my 4 Ubertis.

 

[Stantheman86]

I have 3 cylinders for my pietta Bison and now want to pick up a standard 1858 pietta which will then give me 4 cylinders more firepower than a glock wait... don't i have one of those plastic things somewheres....

The fit, finish and timing on my Pietta seems excellent.

There's a guy on YouTube who has an 1858 and a belt rig with about 30 cylinders on it. Unless they pulled the video because it's him talking about being a Felon for a BB gun incident.....

I'd hope he has some baby wipes for cleaning the pin off every 3 cylinders

 

[Stantheman86]

That said , Midway has $247 steel frame Pietta 51 Navies right now

Taylor's claims to have plain cylinders in stock.....

Might be time for me to make an Augusta Machine Works clone....

 

[GYJ]

There's a guy on YouTube who has an 1858 and a belt rig with about 30 cylinders on it. Unless they pulled the video because it's him talking about being a Felon for a BB gun incident.....

I'd hope he has some baby wipes for cleaning the pin off every 3 cylinders

Good Lord! And I thought a loaded cartridge belt was heavy.

 

[Stantheman86]

Good Lord! And I thought a loaded cartridge belt was heavy.

It was a little extreme , I'm gonna see if it's still on there

I'm more impressed that this guy was basically willing to invest probably $3000 just for cylinders

 

[GYJ]

It was a little extreme , I'm gonna see if it's still on there

I'm more impressed that this guy was basically willing to invest probably $3000 just for cylinders

No kidding, that's a lot!

 

[45D]

Just a heads up, pulling the pin after each cyl doesn't allow fouling to accumulate. But hey - you're looking out for the guy !!! ( there is a mod that would allow you to load 30 cyls "on the gun" with no binding!!)

Mike

 

[springfield art]

The only hard facts I have with this , are that the metal polishing is definitely better on my Cimarron Walker vs the 2 I got from Sportsman's Guide. Mechanically and internally they appear the same, my "regular " Ubertis are perfectly timed and slick too and my Uberti 1851 Navy has been trouble free for almost 15 years and 1000s of rounds.

So at least it used to be, that Uberti made the guns cosmetically better

Cimarron used to offer the Premium finishes like the Charcoal Blue and "Old West" finish but apparently the Old West finish wasn't popular and they stopped offering it.

I just saw an article in Backwoodsman, I think, or an ad for a Pietta '73 Army with overall antique finish. Pietta has some lazer engraved percussion pistols, seem to be offering many new items; good for them!

 

[Stantheman86]

I just saw an article in Backwoodsman, I think, or an ad for a Pietta '73 Army with overall antique finish. Pietta has some lazer engraved percussion pistols, seem to be offering many new items; good for them!

Apparently they make good cartridge guns too, like those 1873's.

I honestly had some bad experiences with their older stuff and just wrote them off as junk, but I'm giving their new stuff another shot . I have 3 brand new Piettas and 3 from the mid 2010s, the brand new ones are definitely better. They stepped up their "post Pandemic " game I guess

They're getting wild with the Fantasy guns like all these snubbies, engraved brassers , pepperbox 1851s but it's cool, I like variety.

 

[BatBoy]

Buy the Uberti 1861.

Uberti’s 1861 Navy has the correct barrel length. Also, at this moment in time on Midway USA the Uberti 1861 is cheaper than the Pietta 1861 Navy; $304.99 versus $339.99.

I personally don’t care about Pietta’s penchant for putting roll marks on the barrels. I’m not a reencator or trying to pretend I have an original. However, the barrel length discrepancy on the Pietta 1861 Navy is a deal breaker for me. Based on this, I’d buy the Uberti 1861 even if it was more expensive.

I own Piettas and Ubertis. Both companies have issues, produce lemons etc. plus, if you shoot them enough, you’ll end up fixing something eventually. The good news is these cap and ball revolvers are fairly easy to work on.

 

[Stantheman86]

Piettas are what you buy to play around with after you have a nice collection of Ubertis

I need an 1860 Army and I'm getting a Uberti