Does anyone know what years this style of half stock Tryon Rifle were made? Were there any during the RMFT era? Does anyone have any info on these rifle? (The original, not the pedersoli.) Picture is a Pedersoli Tryon for reference...
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Tryon Rifles In The Fur Trade?
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I don’t know a lot about them understand they are just post rendezvous times cr 1850
Thanks @tenngun, only heard about them the other day, thought they were odd, can't really dig up much info on them.
kansas_volunteer
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Tryon made trade rifles that were similar to rifles by other makers. They could have shown up a rendezvous.
I have òne like the one pictured above. I've always considered a rifle made for ''civilized'' folk east of the Mississippi late in the muzzleloading era. The back action lock says it's post 1825-30.
I have òne like the one pictured above. I've always considered a rifle made for ''civilized'' folk east of the Mississippi late in the muzzleloading era. The back action lock says it's post 1825-30.
I would think the rifle shown in post #1 would be an 1850's-1860's style. It is a late percussion model, probably contemporary with the classic Sam Hawken rifles. Back action locks were very popular during that period, and if you Google "percussion plains rifle" or "percussion buffalo rifle" you'll see lots of them. However, as far as I know this Pedersoli Tryon rifle is the only rifle now in production that has a back action lock. I would think of this rifle as one that might have been used by a market hunter or possibly an emigrant. This rifle by William Robinson was carried by a meat hunter named James Nosworthy, who supplied workers for the Great Northern Railroad:
The Robinson rifle is similar to the Pedersoli Tryon in many respects, including the back action lock.
The Tryon family of gunmakers was active for a very long time, and they did provide guns to the government and to trading companies during the heyday of the Rocky Mountain fur trade, just not guns like the one pictured. I'm pretty sure Tryon also made Northwest guns. They also turned out kettles, knives, and various other trade goods. If you are interested in Tryon history, I would recommend reading 100 Years of Tryon, by Robert Sadler (American Society of Arms Collectors Bulletin 79:57-68).
I believe many of today's rendezvous try to focus on the period of 1840 and earlier, as the last of the famous Rocky Mountain rendezvous was held in 1840 or 1841. However, there were less formal events in the following years. Bill Hamilton, author of My Sixty Years on the Plains, didn't even get out there until 1842, yet in his book, he described trapping, trading, and even attending trappers' rendezvous for years after that.
Track of the Wolf has a genuine 1830's-era Tryon trade rifle for sale on their website right now. Here is a link: Tryon Trade Rifle Note the full stock, full-sized patchbox, and brass furniture. It's in pretty bad shape, and the lock is missing, but there is enough of it left to give you a good idea of the type of Tryon rifle that might have been carried by a beaver trapper in the pre-1840 period. The rifle shown in post #1 is a much later style.
I hope you won't let that stop you from getting one, if that's what you want, though. This Pedersoli Tryon rifle has been discussed several times here on the forum, and owners agree that it is an excellent shooter with superb accuracy. I have gone through episodes of wanting one, but they go into hiding when they know you are looking for them. I would lose interest, and then see them showing up for sale again. It's just as well... I do not need another gun...
Best regards,
Notchy Bob
The Robinson rifle is similar to the Pedersoli Tryon in many respects, including the back action lock.
The Tryon family of gunmakers was active for a very long time, and they did provide guns to the government and to trading companies during the heyday of the Rocky Mountain fur trade, just not guns like the one pictured. I'm pretty sure Tryon also made Northwest guns. They also turned out kettles, knives, and various other trade goods. If you are interested in Tryon history, I would recommend reading 100 Years of Tryon, by Robert Sadler (American Society of Arms Collectors Bulletin 79:57-68).
I believe many of today's rendezvous try to focus on the period of 1840 and earlier, as the last of the famous Rocky Mountain rendezvous was held in 1840 or 1841. However, there were less formal events in the following years. Bill Hamilton, author of My Sixty Years on the Plains, didn't even get out there until 1842, yet in his book, he described trapping, trading, and even attending trappers' rendezvous for years after that.
Track of the Wolf has a genuine 1830's-era Tryon trade rifle for sale on their website right now. Here is a link: Tryon Trade Rifle Note the full stock, full-sized patchbox, and brass furniture. It's in pretty bad shape, and the lock is missing, but there is enough of it left to give you a good idea of the type of Tryon rifle that might have been carried by a beaver trapper in the pre-1840 period. The rifle shown in post #1 is a much later style.
I hope you won't let that stop you from getting one, if that's what you want, though. This Pedersoli Tryon rifle has been discussed several times here on the forum, and owners agree that it is an excellent shooter with superb accuracy. I have gone through episodes of wanting one, but they go into hiding when they know you are looking for them. I would lose interest, and then see them showing up for sale again. It's just as well... I do not need another gun...
Best regards,
Notchy Bob
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kansas_volunteer
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Somewhere recently I've seen a picture of rifle with a triggerguard like the one seen in post 1, made by another smith in longrifle style. When searching for it I found this.
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Tryon was active in the 1830s. And some Hawken Mountain rifles had Tryon marked locks. Probably imported from Birmingham, England. And the locks can be dated as pre and post 1834-35 by the markings. I suspect that there were some rifles that made it to the West. If he made them or just marked them would be the question in my mind.
