Triple 7 and Pyrodex ?

[Rawhide67]

I've used both. No problems with t7 as long as you don't carry over from one season to the next. See like once the cannis open, use it up.

Pyrodex also seems harder to clean. I'm pretty good about cleaning after shooting by have a few pits in an unmentionable tc barrel after using pyrodex.

 

[Commodore Swab]

If your thought is to start using it due to the loss of bp save yourself the trouble of thinking since they are getting shut down also

 

[SPQR70AD]

I tried T7 in my "chunk gun" and got great groups out of a fresh can! 1 year later using the same can I couldn't keep the shots on the paper!

maybe your eyes aint the same lol

 

[SPQR70AD]

I shot alot of Pyrodex P in my .50 caliber Hawken and it worked excellent. Never a misfire and was accurate with buffalo bore conicals. I use it in my cap-n-ball pistols and never had an issue. in my parger caliber gun like my 12 gauge, I use Pyrodex select and it works well for pheasant hunting..
Ohio Rusty ><>

that is exactly the results I had. I shot BP also and I dont see why people say Pyro is harder to clean then BP. hot soapy water totally dissolves it just in one application. to me BP left the rifle or pistol like it was found in the rubble at nagasaki where the Pyro left the guns a light gray color

 

[jlatz]

Triple 7 works well in muzzle loading original shotguns. I have used it much at the Friendship trap range.

 

[Commodore Swab]

Triple 7 works well in muzzle loading original shotguns. I have used it much at the Friendship trap range.

triple 7 is also getting shut down

 

[toot]

I tried T7 in my "chunk gun" and got great groups out of a fresh can! 1 year later using the same can I couldn't keep the shots on the paper!

I have found out that if you let it set for a month or more it silidifies into a solid & you have to take a dowel and break it apart. now I don't if this is a degrading process of the T-777, or not? I am not a chemist.

 

[toot]

Triple 7 works well in muzzle loading original shotguns. I have used it much at the Friendship trap range.

with out no 10 GRS. of BP. in front of it?

 

[HiDesertHunter]

One more time with regard to Pyrodex and the other brands getting shut down. The following from the official statement:

Effective immediately, Hodgdon Powder Company, Inc. has made the decision to cease manufacturing operations at the company’s Camp Minden, Louisiana site while evaluating strategic options for the black powder business.

They do next expect any impact on their other categories or brands as the only location which produced black powder was the Camp Minden factory.

 

[sportster73hp]

Ok, the question was how well subs work not why goex is closing the doors.
Personally I would like to hear from those who have used it in their flint guns. Does everyone use a bp starter charge or do some work without?

 

[Okie Hog]

I also did not find it any more corrosive or difficult to clean than 'real' BP as well.

Same here. Both black powder and Pyrodex contain sulfur, potassium nitrate and charcoal: Pyrodex has some other ingredients. The agent of serious corrosion with black powder and Pyrodex is the same-sulfur.

i've cleaned up a truckload of neglected muzzleloaders. Any claim that the residue of Pyrodex is more corrosive than that of black powder is malarky. .

 

[HiDesertHunter]

Pyrodex has some other ingredients.

Yep and they are pretty 'quiet' about what these other ingredients are and it has been 'hinted' they (Hodgdon) has stayed low profile about it to maintain Pyrodex' status as a non-explosive so it can be categorized similar to smokeless powder for the ease of retailers.

I am sure if it were ever really compared 'apples to apples' Pyrodex probably ain't too far (chemically) from 'real' black powder.

 

[Okie Hog]

The Pyrodex MSDS:

http://www.hodgdon.com/msds/pyrodex.htm (nwic.edu)

The original Pyrodex patent which has changed somewhat over time:

45 parts of potassium nitrate
9 parts of charcoal
6 parts of sulfur
19 parts of potassium perchlorate
11 parts of sodium benzoate
6 parts of dicyanamide
1 to 4 parts of water

 

[Elkhorse]

The Pyrodex MSDS:

http://www.hodgdon.com/msds/pyrodex.htm (nwic.edu)

The original Pyrodex patent which has changed somewhat over time:

45 parts of potassium nitrate
9 parts of charcoal
6 parts of sulfur
19 parts of potassium perchlorate
11 parts of sodium benzoate
6 parts of dicyanamide
1 to 4 parts of water

Now we're gettiing somewhere.

 

[Michiganmuzzy]

triple 7 is also getting shut down

Why do you keep saying that?

 

[Michiganmuzzy]

triple 7 is also getting shut down

Why do you keep saying that?

Never mind. I looked some of your other posts and got my answer.

 

[toot]

just maybe it is because it is made at the same plant? just maybe? jmho.

 

[Siringo]

triple 7 is also getting shut down

False!!!!

 

[Bergmann]

I have found out that if you let it set for a month or more it silidifies into a solid & you have to take a dowel and break it apart. now I don't if this is a degrading process of the T-777, or not? I am not a chemist.

I've not had that happen but I do notice bits of clumping! I've been wondering if putting one of those desiccant packs in the can would help.

 

[Bergmann]

maybe your eyes aint the same lol

I'll know pretty soon! I converted my chunk gun back to flint and plan on testing it as soon as I get a chance - with Swiss powder!