I’ve had a few j brown guns over the years, all have been functioning affordable guns that have done what they are supposed too. Are they pretty, no, but not offensive to look at either. Funny thing is, I’ve sold both my Allen Martin rifles and am trying to sell my mike brooks rifle, not because I didn’t like them, but because due to shoulder/neck injury I can no longer hold a long gun properly, so in turn, I’m back to a very short .50 that Mr. brown had for sale about 2 months ago on Alf. Do I miss floating around the woods with the buttery smooth finish of those much finer guns , yes, but am I happy I found a serviceable gun that will keep me shooting for longer, yes very much so. I feel his guns fill a gap between commercial and custom guns at a price that is fair and affordable to most that want to tag along in the muzzleloader adventure.