Synthetic powders

[Tannehill]

With the shortage of real black powder, I am curious which of the synthetic powders you all consider as the better short term alternative.

I have used Pyrodex P and R, not crazy about it.

Only have about a pound and half of 3 and 2 f flex!

 

[Omahkapi'si]

I shoot Triple 7. Like it.

 

[Dave Marsh]

Not sure what powder shortage you are talking about. Grafs and Sons have it in stock ready to order.

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

It s a matter of time before P-Dex supplies run short.....or maybe not....some have professed they would never use it...
It can always be put into an empty goex can...wink wink.....hey whos to know? LOL

 

[Ames]

Not sure what powder shortage you are talking about. Grafs and Sons have it in stock ready to order.

Yeah. If you shoot 1 1/2 f. I can get away with that in my Hawken 54.

 

[deermanok]

You can get black powder, just have to shop around online.
I just got a delivery from Graf and sons yesterday.
Pyrodex or Triple 7 are popular subs.

 

[jsb30]

Buffalo arms has Goex in stock

 

[Justin.44]

@Tannehill You did not specify what type of gun you'll be using a substitute powder in. If using a percussion rifle or revolver 777 works good for me.

If using a flintlock, you'd best off saving the last 1.5 lbs of your Goex for priming the pan and using 5 grains or so of the real stuff down the bore before pouring the rest of the 777 charge. Never done it but I've heard of people using that method.

 

[azmntman]

I have done it and I'd go 10 gr for a primer but you'll have no difference than a full charge of black IMHO

 

[griffiga]

With the shortage of real black powder, I am curious which of the synthetic powders you all consider as the better short term alternative.

I have used Pyrodex P and R, not crazy about it.

Only have about a pound and half of 3 and 2 f flex!

If you are not shooting a flinter, the substitutes work OK. Triple 7 seems to be a bit hotter. 65 to 70 grains is about like 80 black. I use the substitutes mostly in my black powder cartridge guns where ignition is more uniform (inside a self contained case), but I have shot lots of Pyrodex out of my caplocks with decent success. Definitely better than not shooting at all if you can't find the real stuff.

 

[griffiga]

@Tannehill You did not specify what type of gun you'll be using a substitute powder in. If using a percussion rifle or revolver 777 works good for me.

If using a flintlock, you'd best off saving the last 1.5 lbs of your Goex for priming the pan and using 5 grains or so of the real stuff down the bore before pouring the rest of the 777 charge. Never done it but I've heard of people using that method.

I've done it before, it's just a bit of a pain in the ARSE. but if you are not under a Redcoat (no offense Britsmoothy) or Indian attack, you'll be OK.

 

[rafterob]

Triple7 and Pyrodex in that order

 

[Omahkapi'si]

I have some Pyrodex RS just have never shot it yet.

 

[SDSmlf]

With the shortage of real black powder, I am curious which of the synthetic powders you all consider as the better short term alternative.

I have used Pyrodex P and R, not crazy about it.

Only have about a pound and half of 3 and 2 f flex!

You could think outside the box and stock up on blackpowder NOW as an alternative to synthetic powders as a short term alternative. Would also serve as a long term alternative.

 

[Sparkitoff]

Just because you "like" it doesn't mean it is the best performing powder for your load/rifle. I have one rifle that absolutely prefers Pyrodex to Goex or Triple 7. I have a rifle that prefers Triple 7 over Pyrodex but will shoot good with Goex too. You have to experiment some with powder and different loads to see if one is a stand out for what you're shooting.

 

[Henry Miles]

T7 works great in caplocks. Reduce the volume a little since it's hotter if you like. My 45 Pedersoli loves 70gr w/PRB

 

[LST-1185]

American pioneer. If I can't get that then Pyrodex.

 

[maineguy]

American Pioneer is clean and shoot without shooting. I use goex and i need to clean between shots and after a bit of shooting clean out the drum .percussion pendersoli frontier 50 cal

 

[towgunner11h]

PowderValley seems to have plenty of the Holy Black.

 

[maineguy]

App shoot without cleaning sorry