supplies for Niverville's raiding party 1747

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  1. Mar 28, 2019 #41

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    From the early 1600's till the end of the American Revolution, France and England were at war with each other for most of the time period, and at peace not so much.

     
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    An old English measure of length equal to 45 inches. Commonly used to describe fabrics, just as we use yards, today.
     
  3. Apr 14, 2019 #43

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    Anybody notice that some of the kettles weighed 6 lbs. and one weighed more than 9 lbs. ? I wonder about cast iron ?

    Folks are assuming the tobacco for the commander was smoked....when it could be chewed which would account for why he needed so much more than the others.

    I think the grease may also be used not just for eating but for smearing on the bodies of the warriors after mixing with vermillion

    I noted that almost everybody got a deerskin..., was this to be used in covering the outside of a tumpline-pack ??

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    I think tumpline pack cover is one definite possibility for the deerskin. Perhaps for patching moccasins?
     
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    I hadn't thought of that..., :oops:

    I noted that the Canadian militia were issued "oxhide shoes" which I think are what we often call "shoepacks"....but no hide to repair those, unless one used the deerskin for that...and the Commander also had such shoes.

    I also noted that while not every person was issued snowshoes (so I suppose some arrived with them), and no moccasins were issued, every person got one and only one deerskin (except the commander)

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    Good points: that would seem to make your theory more likely.
     
  7. Apr 15, 2019 #47

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    THanks, OR...., you're right, it could be for moccasin repair, or maybe for lots of unspecified repairs, and everybody expected to be so equipped in those days ??? It might not show on other inventories of such expeditions if it was so commonplace...

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    20190415_103407.jpg Here is my attempt at winter ox-hide shoes. I cheated and made them big enough for felt boot boot liners. ha ha. They have kept my feet warm in sub zero temps. I made them in the early 80s. Many patches on the bottoms.
    Bill View attachment 8328
     
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    An ell is approximately a yard. It is the measurement from the nose to the tips of the outstretched fingers. When buying, you want a tall salesman.
     
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    Bearskins were used as bedding/ mattress.

    Wool shirts were not seen in new France,wool was used for coats vested and leggings, depending on grade.
    The book by Steve Delisle contains many more lists of equipment
     
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    Alexander,
    Do you know where Delisle's book can be found?
    Amazon has is listed as out of print
     
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    Some have had luck with a search of libraries.
    It's rare,and expensive if you can find a copy
     
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    file:///C:/Users/pettas/OneDrive%20-%20SUNY%20at%20Oneonta/Documents/Milice%20-%20Steve%20Delisle's%20book.pdf

    Hey All - I'm not all that great with tech "stuff" but hopefully the link above will get you to Steve Delisle's book. It was available on-line years ago and I saved a copy to my files. Hopefully you'll be able to access it.

    That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well.

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    Snapper,
    Your link is incomplete
     
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    I was afraid of that. I'll see what I can do. If you send me an e-mail address for you I think I can forward it to you that way.

    That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well.

    snapper
     
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    Hey All - I've worked out my tech inadequacies and have already sent out a PDF copy of the Steve Delisle book. If anyone is interested in receiving a copy, just send me your e-mail address and I'll get it out to you. One quick note...I'm leaving after work tomorrow (8/6) and won't be back to a computer again until next week so if you don't hear from me right away, I'll definitely get to it when I get back. Thanks!

    That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well.

    snapper
     
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