Starting a Deringer trade rifle

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    Thank you for the history Dave. Even an old dog can learn much by watching you or Rich.
     
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    There was an Indian burial that was excavated near Ann Arbor Michigan many years ago that contained the remains of a Deringer rifle. Probably came from one of the forts near Detroit.
     
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    Rich, the Deringer is looking good. The color case hardening on the lock is pretty much the same way Jack Brooks does his.

    You could extend the time period a decade earlier. Henry Deringer set up his gun shop in Philadelphia in 1809 and got his first government contract for Indian trade rifles that year. So during the four decades from 1810 through the 1840s, Deringer was producing rifles. By the time of the California Gold Rush, he had switched to making his famous pistol. I posted a little more history and info on Deringer rifles here.
     
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    A lot of Deringer rifles have been found buried. This one was uncovered in the South. It has the "ghost" patch box finial that Deringer is also known for. This is from the William Basco collection.
    Dug Deringer Rifle_low res.jpg

    A few years ago, I saw a collector with a similar set of parts from a Deringer rifle that were found in Oklahoma. All three of these examples show the wide distribution his rifles recieved.
     
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    Phil, thanks for the photo of that remarkable find. interesting that the lock is at full cock and ready to shoot. Makes one wonder if there is a load in the barrel.
    Also, looks like maybe a soapstone ball mold?
     
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    Basco posted this picture on Facebook. He said the ball mold itself was made from lead. The item between the trigger guard and the cast balls is a pair of scissors. Note a few pieces of wood had not decayed such as the sections of ramrod in the forward pipes and a couple pieces of butt stock near the butt plate and patch box. The copper in the brass is mildly anti-bacterial and is the reason this wood was preserved.
     
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    That's looking sharp, Rich!
     
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    Some pix of other Deringer trade rifles.
     

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    I should have said "the only other Deringer trade rifle build I've seen made was by Jack Brooks (long ago)".
     
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