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Do you know anyone who has had good or bad results when their dog was bitten by a rattler? It says the shot doesn’t work for mohave rattlers, it’d be my luck to run into one, though I’ve never seen one outside of a zoo.
Mojave Greens suck. They're aggressive and the venom is both hemotoxic and neurotoxic.
Seen my share and avoid at all cost.
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Mojave Greens suck. They're aggressive and the venom is both hemotoxic and neurotoxic.
Seen my share and avoid at all cost.

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Seems they look an awful lot like Western diamondbacks. This is the only one I’ve had the wherewithal to take a picture. Almost stepped on it. Pretty little. Think its a Western.
 

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I saw one copperhead kill a whole group of people. About twenty.
A friend of mine was hunting when this timber rattler struck at him. It missed and hit a tree. Well after that cottonmouth hit the tree it took to swelling. He told everyone and we went to see the tree.
It was huge.
We cut it down and built a small chapel out of that one tree.
Well, lots of folk get bit by Pygmy rattlers and swell but don’t die.
Sure enough they were dedicating that chapel when the swelling went out. Crushed the whole congregation
You got to be ware of them rattletsiledcoppermouths.
Reminds me of the stories my Grandfather would tell.
gunny
 

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My local vet states the rattle snake vaccine only gives the dog an extra 30 minutes to real medical attention. He is not very impressed with the vaccine. It's also very expensive. In our state Washington, there are no rattlers west of the Cascade Mountain divide, only eastern WA. Eastern WA id where all the best hunting habitate. Years ago, I took my family on a week long raft trip down the Lower Snake River. Camped on the beaches as we drifted some 100 miles. Finding a beach without snake trails from the high brush accross the sand was difficult. Only encountered a snakein camp on our last night. It was dusk . I used the 8' oar to relocate the snake upstream of the camp site twice. The third time it cam through camp, I dismembered it. It was a pigmy rattler. Apparently their venom is more toxic than the larger snakes.
 

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I carry a hoe with the head straightened out for a walking stick during the warm months . If they are out of range of the hoe they are usually no danger to me . We have all the poison snakes in my area and they run to the large size .
Pulaski TN. here. Snakes have been plentiful around here this year. Not much lower never though.
 

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I probably should, as I’ve been snake bit once by a rattle snake, three times by copperheads. But with the exception of cotton mouths I find the last thing a snake wants todo is bite you. I never been bothered by them
Each time I was bit it was my fault
Glad you survived all those bites as I enjoy your comments on the forum. Yep, snakes don't like to be bothered much. But sometimes we can't help but mess with them.
 

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Do you know anyone who has had good or bad results when their dog was bitten by a rattler? It says the shot doesn’t work for mohave rattlers, it’d be my luck to run into one, though I’ve never seen one outside of a zoo.
When I was a kid we had two dogs that got bit pretty regular . They would kill every snake they found and usually got bit doing it. They would crawl under the house ( old country house on rock pillar foundation ) and whine and carry on for a few days and were off their feed for a few more but nothing worse . Mostly Copperheads but I watched them both get bit by a medium sized Diamondback one day and never could tell that their reaction was any different . That said , a neighbor lady had her dog bit by a copperhead and it died fairly quickly .

The Mojave Rattler poison is a lot worse than the poison of the snakes we normally see in Tennessee and Alabama . I know of one fellow that got bit by a Cottonmouth in Madison Alabama and died before they could get him to a hospital that was 20 minutes away but that is not normal . Most people bit survive if threated within a reasonable time .
 

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Do you know anyone who has had good or bad results when their dog was bitten by a rattler? It says the shot doesn’t work for mohave rattlers, it’d be my luck to run into one, though I’ve never seen one outside of a zoo.
Never had to deal with Mohave greens. But I can say this about even aggressive snakes.
They don’t want to bite you, or your dog. They want gophers and moles and rats.
Sometimes biting people or dogs they give little or no venom.
That why crazy cures like tobacco juice or sucking out blood, getting drunk works
Sometimes they hit with too big a load and nothing helps. Can’t get to the doc or the vet fast enough or enough anti venom to help
It’s a crap shoot
 

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Well been a bit since any snake posts, so thought I would relate the kee,kee snake incident that happened yesterday while deer hunting, so this snake slithers bye wearing a tube sweater, moving very slow, so I ask this snake what it was up too, it replies that it was cold KEE KEE cold and thought it would go for a crawl too attempt too warm up a bit, but it thought that was a bad decision and did not know if it could make it back too its den, I did wish it good luck but as I was hunting a deer there was nothing I could do to assist it in its mission. Now some may think this is a falsehood of a story but I got two chipmunks who will back the incident, as they were sitting on a log watching this, the one chipmunk even says well when that there snake freezes I an going too get that tube sweater and put it in my nest for when the snow starts. Good luck too all this hunting season, and watch out for them Kee Kee snakes.
 

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The Timber Rattler is a deadly snake, more dangerous than other Rattlers
except the Mojave. In Florida we call the Timber Rattler the Canebreak Rattler.
The Timber-Canebreak rattlers have a duo-toxin that attacks nerves and flesh
and blood. Therefore a canebreak bite can mean death, especially to a child.
I have travelled and camped across America --and the snakeyist places in
America are Pennsylvania for Timber Rattlers And New Mexico-Arizona for
Western Diamondbacks. Florida is snakey (I am airboater with camps in
swamp)-grew up in Glades country--but nothing like I have experienced
camping in those two places. Now the snakey zones of Pennsylvania
border other states and Ohio and West Virginia are not free of them.
Point being, load up some shot #6 or BBs when in snake country --and
remember that deadly Timber Rattler is hiding closer than you think.
And they now wear sweaters and shawls when out on the crawls so be
sure to put snake shields on your snow shoes or suffer a ****** off snake!
 
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Woody Morgan

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Well been a bit since any snake posts, so thought I would relate the kee,kee snake incident that happened yesterday while deer hunting, so this snake slithers bye wearing a tube sweater, moving very slow, so I ask this snake what it was up too, it replies that it was cold KEE KEE cold and thought it would go for a crawl too attempt too warm up a bit, but it thought that was a bad decision and did not know if it could make it back too its den, I did wish it good luck but as I was hunting a deer there was nothing I could do to assist it in its mission. Now some may think this is a falsehood of a story but I got two chipmunks who will back the incident, as they were sitting on a log watching this, the one chipmunk even says well when that there snake freezes I an going too get that tube sweater and put it in my nest for when the snow starts. Good luck too all this hunting season, and watch out for them Kee Kee snakes.
Say hi to Alice for me.

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Mohave and Timber Rattlers have neurotox-nerve toxic venom. That Den of Rattlers shown above
are prairie or western rattlers. They congregate around prairie dog colonies and hang out in
areas where the southern sun can warm them. I shed no tear when a rattler gets blasted.
They are merciless killers themselves, with few enemies in nature (men ,eagles, bigger snakes).
They bite a lot of dogs. Usually the bites do not kill the dog--but make a crater of dead tissue.
True, the snake doesn't want problems with things too big to eat--but is happy to bite and
hurt our pets and kids. To heck with ecology and snake huggers--blast them evil snakes!!
 

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The Timber Rattler is a deadly snake, more dangerous than other Rattlers
except the Mojave. In Florida we call the Timber Rattler the Canebreak Rattler.
The Timber-Canebreak rattlers have a duo-toxin that attacks nerves and flesh
and blood. Therefore a canebreak bite can mean death, especially to a child.
I have travelled and camped across America --and the snakeyist places in
America are Pennsylvania for Timber Rattlers And New Mexico-Arizona for
Western Diamondbacks. Florida is snakey (I am airboater with camps in
swamp)-grew up in Glades country--but nothing like I have experienced
camping in those two places. Now the snakey zones of Pennsylvania
border other states and Ohio and West Virginia are not free of them.
Point being, load up some shot #6 or BBs when in snake country --and
remember that deadly Timber Rattler is hiding closer than you think.
And they now wear sweaters and shawls when out on the crawls so be
sure to put snake shields on your snow shoes or suffer a ****** off snake!
I know about Timber Rattlers. I was struck by one in the Burkhead Wilderness of the Uwharrie National Forrest scouting for deer in 1991. Heart rate was up from walking hard, so it immediately began to caused swelling and twitching of nerves. Put me in ICU for three days.
Venom destroys the proteins and enzymes of the blood and muscle tissue. Red blood cells was being destroyed to the point of a blood transfusion. The anti-venom they flew in from the poison control center was horse blood, which is high in protein. The venom started attacking the high protein horse blood, and my blood count started coming back up. The 4 foot Timber Rattlesnake got me with one fang.
Lesson learned: wear leggings when in snake country. I was blessed to have my brother with me, and he drove me to the hospital.
I purchased a snake bite kit after that. A 44 Magnum Super Black Hawk with a 10-1/2" barrel with pellet shot.
 

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I've only run across Copperheads around here although I know a rattlesnake (Timber, Eastern Diamondback) or two are around. Learned early on to watch where you put your hands and feet and never step over a fallen log without checking the other side. If too close to the house or my goats you do what you have to, but I also relocated a docile Copperhead that had a shot at me and didn't take it so I returned the favor. I stop and get black snakes out of the road, they're friends :thumb: Always fun on the motorcycle because I wear gloves and just grab them, people going by in cars look at me like I'm Tarzan or something😅.
 

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I think I'll stay this side of the Pond..We haveThree types in England Wales & Scotland.Only one has any poison--The ADDER(VIPER) not very toxic to Humuns but dogs do suffer. Non poisonous__Grass snakes and Smooth snakes. We also have a Legless Lizard.The Slow worm who only gets to about 2ft long at most. The Irish have no snakes on their Island. There are of course the occasional escapese,usually Pets..OLD DOG..
 
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