Rifleman’s hat ... turned ‘up’ on the left or right? And WHY???

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  1. Nov 25, 2018 #21

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    A grenadier's mitre has no brim, and we carry a smooth bored musket, so this rifleman's discussion doesn't apply.;)

    However, when we go out as a hat company and wear the tricorn, the turn ups are not symmetrical. The left side is turned up for ease of shoulder carry. The back is turned up to clear any items being carried and the last side is turned up to make the three points.

    Since the officers don't carry muskets, their tricorns are turned up symmetrically.
     
  2. Nov 28, 2018 #22

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    Well....it appeared then vanished?
    Try again. Since we are doing a lot of pics here is one of me with my Rifleman's round hat. Extra adornments are just that "extra". My thang. So shoot me.
     

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    The only way I can get a flap in front, is to turn my tricorn around.
    Which is how I wear it when hunting as to not pour rain water into the flintlock.
     
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    Guess maybe I'll have to add a deer or coon tail to mine.
    Back view only, slopped down in front.
     
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    It depends on the hat
    Hat 3.jpg

    Old Turkey Hunter.jpg Hat 3.jpg
     
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    As stated in the listing, my pic is of the rear view of the hat. I'm a right handed shooter
    and wanted the curl upwards to be away from my rifle. Each individual has his/her preferences I guess.
     
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    Well, if you were in the army (and the army did all it could to get rid of riflemen!) your round hat was turned up on the left side. Period. If you're just the average backwoods Joe, you could do whatever you wanted to. Personally, I like mine turned up a bit on the right towards the front.

    Wright_of_Derby_Self-Portrait.JPG
     
  9. Sep 30, 2019 #29

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    That's exactly the look I wanted for mine as well...….absolutely great pic !!!

    By the way, who is this pic of and where did he reside ???
     
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    I used to be the same way until my head started blinding me when I looked into a mirror on a sunny day.
     
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    Joseph Wright of Derby (England). Self portrait, 1780
     
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    It's a wonderful portrait, I saved a copy to my pic catalog, I'm going to see if there's a larger print that's available for sale.
    Thanks for the pic and the information. Muchly appreciated. Paul
     
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    I always wear a double-knit, heavyweight toque pulled down over my ears; it eliminates most of the glare from my head.....
     
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    So you don't knock it when maneuvering the rifle around; the "cocked hat" of the Continentals & Brits had the "cock" over the left eye, so when doing the manual of arms youl wouldn't upset the hat. Nice photos, BTW.
     
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    I'm right handed, so turn mine up on the right. Otherwise, the flintlock puts a lot of fouling on the brim.
     
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    Of course Rev War re-enactors know the military hat should be cocked in such a way that the peak is over the left eye; so the barrel doesn't knock the hat when doing the military
    loading/firing drill.
     
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    Even though the front point is over my left eye, the fan tail is across the back. Its just enough on the left side to clear the musket during drill. Military.jpg
    My civilian hat is evenly cocked.
    civilian.jpg
     
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    That's absolutely brilliant! The deer aren't spooked by you, because they think you are facing AWAY from them!
     
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    After perusing dozens of Civil War photos, I have concluded that it was done to suit the wearer- perhaps more often on the left, but sometimes on the right, sometimes straight in front, and sometimes like a tricorner.
     
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    As others have noted the Virginia Round Hat had to be turned up on the left side so you didn't knock your hat off when you "shouldered" your arm. In the 18th ct. arms were always shouldered on the left arm.

    And here's what my Round Hat looked like when I first made it back in about 2007. Made it from a blank I cut to size and turned up with laces. The Northern White Bucktail stuck in the fold came out of my fly-tying supplies.
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    Here's what it looks like today - a typical "well used" Virginia round hat.
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    Twisted_1in66 :thumb:
    Dan
     
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