Rear sight on a Tulle....yes or No ? Thanks

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    trying to make up my mind. Those of Youns that have a rear sight on your Smoothbore.....does it help ? Thanks
     
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    Of course the rear sight helps. The question is what are you using your smoothbore for? If you are planning on shooting in trade gun events then you can not have a rear sight. But if you want to shoot in the flintlock events or even the cap gun events your rear sight should be fine. At least it is out here. And if you are going to hunt and shoot for your own enjoyment by all means put a rear sight on it if you want
     
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    I guess if a shoot Evah came up....I could drift the sight out...eh ?
     
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    I like it, it makes it soooo much easier to shoot well. And if your hunting, some times you have to shoot at an odd angle. It gives you a line up when you can’t get your proper ‘cheek lock’
    No, no rear sight folks won’t let you play their game, but I’m ok with that, you can shoot against rifles and you might not win but have a ton of fun.
     
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    I am not into match shooting so I made a tiny little rear sight for my Tulle out of an old brass barrel tenon blank. They came like 3 or 4 cast together out of a gang mold. I just recut the dovetail to the sides of the tenon so it would fit a small handcut dovetail in the barrel, instead of the usual fore and aft cut. Then a sighting notch on top. Very quaint and unassuming. Works very well.
     
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    Never done it, but I have heard if you want to shoot a smoothie competition you can get two sights. Have one ground flat and the other with the sight in. Shoot with sight as needed, knock it out and put in the flat one in for compitition.
    Or, you can get a TC primitive sight that’s set in with screws on the top flat.
    The problem I see is wearing out your dove tail going back and forth. Then if you get used to a rear sight shooting with out it might not be as easy.
    The tc sight is God awful ugly.
     
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    Well...here’s what Iam going to do. Gonnah secure a temporary rear sight on the Tulle...with tape/ automotive molding tape...something to that effect. And work up a nice load from the bench....once I get that load,the training wheels come off...and it’s all up to me.
     
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    My answer is the same as on the other forum you posted the question on. I will add that you touched on a good point here, it definatley helps with load development in that it keeps things consistent mechanically, the only variable should be the different loads you are trying.

    I'm confused as to why trade gun matches don't allow a rear sight. The Type G trade gun had one. So the Type G trade gun can't compete? I could see if it were a fowling piece match, or buck n ball match.
     
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    Would like to see a pic of that.
     
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    My guess would be that "most" trade guns and fowlers don't have a rear sight, so the Type G would have an "edge", and then everyone, or many, would then think they "had" to have a rear sight to compete. ??? That's my wild guess.
     
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    I found an old buck horn sight in my box.....have the get the torches and mig welder out ,..to make a peep sight that mounts on the rear tang screw. Give me about a week to post pics....I think I got this ! And It can be removed if I want to play with the no rear sight guys.
     
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    If it's just to get the gun shooting where you want it, you could make a peep that could be installed temporarily under the tang screw. On my gun, the slot of the tang screw is indexed to line up with the front sight; I can always get the windage, and only have to sort out the elevation.
     
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    Ok. When I get home I’ll go get a pic.
     
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    Here you go Messr Rat

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    Powder measure used for scale. Started out there was three tenons cast together in gang mold.
     
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    A type "G" or Carolina gun's rear sight is about 1 1/2" from the breech. I suppose if you were young you might be able to see it. I can't, it's just a big blurry blob.
    I have seen hundreds of original smooth bored guns with an "after market" rear sight. They were quite common.
     
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    I had a Green Mountain barrel put on my .45 Flintah.....and the Smith said....I’ll mount that rear sight for us guys with old eyes....so he moved it up the barrel,so I could see it.
     
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    I've had bifocals for 9 years now. The nice thing about no rear site is the aging eyes.
     
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    Yes mine is just behind the transition to the sixteen side then round area
     
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    In Colonial Frontier guns, the French guns that Hamilton classified as Type "C" has a brass rear sight. The English type "G" or Carolina guns also has a rear sight......In both examples the rear sight is set back not far from the breech. I copied an original Carolina gun sight found at Fort Toulouse. If I were going to put a sight on a Fusil de Chasse I would pattern that type C sight......btw way...the dove tail on those things is shallow
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