Dont know what happenned to first and second pics they looked like other 2 when I put them on. To save space the tang, triggerplate,and toe? are just like the Hawkin build story in Muz Blast 05. Tanstaafl,Frizzen,and Cooner how about some specs on yours. Lets try to get a lot on here a base to compare different ones. I had pms from members with Santa Fe and Navy ones too , would like to see those and the Pedrol when it gets out to someone. And all the built from parts / or kit rifles.(after reading what goes into building a kit it can be called a custom Im sure. Thats a lot of work. The T/C with scope,Ive got one on my Vol, but the pic that got me was a Navy Arms photo of one on a the Hawkin they sold, it really looked like it belonged on it. Everyone put yours on Ive only been on here over a year but never seen a lot on one site. Thank you much! Fred :thumbsup: :hatsoff: